Greens and BNP beat labour in Henley

BonnieDundee · 28-06-2008, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress

I'm more inclined to believe that most of the Green voters in Henley are wealthy bleeding heart third world obsessives who can AFFORD to pay £20 a litre for unleaded to fill their gas guzzling Jag with.

The Greens are actually a great little party. They are my favourite of all of them. They are split into many groups and factions although they seem to get on amiably enough at least. I'm not too into enviromentalism for enviromentalisms sake and yet I could even consider joining the Greens because they are very good on other points.

Dissident Congress · 28-06-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

The Greens are actually a great little party. They are my favourite of all of them. They are split into many groups and factions although they seem to get on amiably enough at least. I'm not too into enviromentalism for enviromentalisms sake and yet I could even consider joining the Greens because they are very good on other points.

I disagree. There was a time when the Greens were best described as radical centre. They were more populist than they are today and had many visionary policies, particularly those related to economic and financial reform as well as localisation. Those days are over and today's Greens are more of a photocopy of a conventional socialist or liberal-left party than a radical centre party. They have gone from a party of protecting the environment and reforming the economy to a party of manipulating society. They are a million miles away from populism and fail to focus on issues that matter.

Here's why populist patriots should oppose them

Seasider · 28-06-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress

I disagree. There was a time when the Greens were best described as radical centre. They were more populist than they are today and had many visionary policies, particularly those related to economic and financial reform as well as localisation. Those days are over and today's Greens are more of a photocopy of a conventional socialist or liberal-left party than a radical centre party. They have gone from a party of protecting the environment and reforming the economy to a party of manipulating society. They are a million miles away from populism and fail to focus on issues that matter.

Here's why populist patriots should oppose them

That seems to sum it up very well and I was a member of the Green Party 25 years ago.
Then they were very much into localisation, but somewhere along the line they moved into a very different arena and I parted company with them.

Dissident Congress · 28-06-2008, 12:52 PM

UKIP doesn't seem to make much of an issue over the fact that the Greens are vehemently anti-Union. Since 1990, the Greens have supported an independent England, an independent Scotland, an independent Ulster, and Wales as a dominion. The Union Flag will be defunct or even proscribed.

Some people think the EDs are a pointless party because anybody who wants an independent England just has to vote Green.

BonnieDundee · 28-06-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress

I disagree. There was a time when the Greens were best described as radical centre. They were more populist than they are today and had many visionary policies, particularly those related to economic and financial reform as well as localisation. Those days are over and today's Greens are more of a photocopy of a conventional socialist or liberal-left party than a radical centre party. They have gone from a party of protecting the environment and reforming the economy to a party of manipulating society. They are a million miles away from populism and fail to focus on issues that matter.

Here's why populist patriots should oppose them

Well I'm not one to care if they are socialist as long as they are decentalist and libertarian. Which they still seem to be. In some circles being for economic decentralisation and against globalisation makes one socialist. To me it really doesn't matter and I support them in such views.

There is certainly a socialist faction in the Greens, although they are far from the Universalist, centralist and authoritarian Marxists in my view, but they do not control then Greens. My problem is more withn the more mainstream Greens who care more about a few sanctions against Carbon emissions than such things.

In my opinion most Greens are like, me not socialists but not capitalists. We believe in distributism like thr BNP ie alowing most people or families to easily own productive property and removing large corporations and the centralised state from economic considerations.

In fact you populists should be more trying to keep them to their populist polices than trying to attack them. After all you guys are some of the closest allies of us left of centre decentralists on the right. As long as you want economic decentralism and distributism, as opposed to regluar corporate-captalism, we should be great allies. I reckon you at the DC should be in contact with the Greens. They are, imho, the most populist and decentalist of the parties.

Shaun · 28-06-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UkipHM

UKIP are the only chance we have now of fighting the EU, the BNP are dying and have also sold their soul to the EU.

Yet again, I can just reverse your unfounded lie and turn it into my own. Have you ever considered proving anything you say? Or is the BNP too 'igh and mighty for all that now?

Remember Griffin said:

Is that your mantra, dear Blueblood?

If the BNP is "dying",what's happening to UKIP?

HM · 28-06-2008, 03:19 PM

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If the BNP is "dying",what's happening to UKIP?

I was simply reversing his statement to make another unfounded accusation. After all he seems very fond of those. Maybe you should actually read what I have written instead of hastily looking for a way to catch me out?

Shaun · 28-06-2008, 03:27 PM

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I was simply reversing his statement to make another unfounded accusation. After all he seems very fond of those. Maybe you should actually read what I have written instead of hastily looking for a way to catch me out?

I have read your post very carefully and invite others to do so.
You suggested the BNP "are dying",so what's happening to UKIP?

HM · 28-06-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

I have read your post very carefully and invite others to do so.
You suggested the BNP "are dying",so what's happening to UKIP?

No. I was sarcastically reversing his statement, putting "the BNP" in place of "UKIP" to make another unfounded accusation. If you're going to argue for something, give evidence. Blueblood regularly fails to do this and so I have to pester him to do so.

For_England · 28-06-2008, 03:35 PM

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One project that was temporarily halted by the authorities was TV licence evasion and removing part of a TV to make it undetectable by the detector vans.

I thought it was a myth that detector vans actually detect TVs, and that they simply show up at houses where no licence has been bought.

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Dissident Congress Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 750	UKIP doesn't seem to make much of an issue over the fact that the Greens are vehemently anti-Union. Since 1990, the Greens have supported an independent England, an independent Scotland, an independent Ulster, and Wales as a dominion. The Union Flag will be defunct or even proscribed. Some people think the EDs are a pointless party because anybody who wants an independent England just has to vote Green. __________________ Dissident Congress Promoting Populist Patriotism Our Nation - Our People - Our Heritage - Our Future

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