Greens and BNP beat labour in Henley

HM · 27-06-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Vortex

Then continue to make way for the only possible political vehicle to save this nation, its people and its heritage, namely the British National Party.

Except the people who have dark skin.

Dissident Congress · 27-06-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Nationalist

The conservatives are even more into free trading than labour. Conservatives are not the answer and most people know they are not better but want to punish new labour.

All large companies that are not even British owned are going to get richer and more powerful and we are going to be far worse off then we currently are. People still just see Conservatives as the only way to beat Labour but it is clear labour is no longer a threat and will never win the next general election. We all need to push against the Conservatives now to make sure a labour double with more determination to make the poor poorer and the rich richer don’t come into power. If conservatives do come into power I can’t see them lasting very long and they are going to add to damage already caused.

Of course the CONservatives are not the answer. DC knows this so has concocted a leaflet to expose the Tories as the nasty party they really are.

HM · 27-06-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress

Of course the CONservatives are not the answer. DC knows this so has concocted a leaflet to expose the Tories as the nasty party they really are.

Does DC support racial equality? I like some of the ideas on the site.

blueblood1920 · 27-06-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress

Of course the CONservatives are not the answer. DC knows this so has concocted a leaflet to expose the Tories as the nasty party they really are.

If DC is so fantastic why is it unheard of?

Wowbanger TIP · 28-06-2008, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by blueblood1920

We stand good chances in a couple of seats in B&D, Stoke and even Havering is showing potential now. On Merseyside now we are thrashing the tories repeatedly, we are achieving 2nd places and getting votes of up to 26%. These things need good groups on the ground and we can only get good results in seats by working all year round, we cant expect to walk into an area especially one like Henley and expect to get an amazing result.

Some material will be **** because we dont have the money to spend on great quality ones, the **** ones will help get new people onboard who will then help fund our future campaigns. Thats a problem with many people they want everything NOW and cant think forward, once you have a good group with large numbers of people on your books you will be able to get the money to fund these leaflets.

You can't extrapolate local election results to general election conditions. I seriously doubt there is a constituency in Britain in which the BNP have a realistic chance as things stand, although there may be a few Labour MP's who lose their seats as the BNP cut into their vote clearing the way for other varieties of scum. True there are a couple of Labour MP's ringing alarm bell's but this is merely an attempt to manipulate Milbank (or what ever its successor is called) into delivering some resources. Maybe Barking has an outside chance, but as for Stoke and Havering, forget it. If they do as well as Oldham did way back in 01' (16% Nick Griffin) that would be good going.

Beating the Tories in Merseyside is no more of an achievement than beating Labour in Henley.

But you are right that the only way forward are professional trained and backed local groups supported, not hindered, by Head Office.

Put this alongside an aggressive by election/media campaign, the adoption of a far more sophisticated policy set, better standard arguments, and most importantly the closing of the open goals represented by the fascist element and there might just be a chance of progress. And if not at least we would know that we could have done nothing else.

Buy the way, you wont change anyones vote with a leaflet, no matter how well designed it is. And if its a BNP one, it won't be well designed.

Dissident Congress · 28-06-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by blueblood1920

If DC is so fantastic why is it unheard of?

If the BNP is so fantastic why was it almost unheard of in 1997, and only really known to its supporters and opponents outside of a few towns in 2002?

The BNP may have 100 councillors but how many people on the street can name just 5 of the councils with BNP representation?

blueblood1920 · 28-06-2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP

You can't extrapolate local election results to general election conditions. I seriously doubt there is a constituency in Britain in which the BNP have a realistic chance as things stand, although there may be a few Labour MP's who lose their seats as the BNP cut into their vote clearing the way for other varieties of scum. True there are a couple of Labour MP's ringing alarm bell's but this is merely an attempt to manipulate Milbank (or what ever its successor is called) into delivering some resources. Maybe Barking has an outside chance, but as for Stoke and Havering, forget it. If they do as well as Oldham did way back in 01' (16% Nick Griffin) that would be good going.

Beating the Tories in Merseyside is no more of an achievement than beating Labour in Henley.

But you are right that the only way forward are professional trained and backed local groups supported, not hindered, by Head Office.

Put this alongside an aggressive by election/media campaign, the adoption of a far more sophisticated policy set, better standard arguments, and most importantly the closing of the open goals represented by the fascist element and there might just be a chance of progress. And if not at least we would know that we could have done nothing else.

Buy the way, you wont change anyones vote with a leaflet, no matter how well designed it is. And if its a BNP one, it won't be well designed.

I disagree with you on the view of local election results, Barking has shown that the people there are now firm BNP voters what will be an important indication of support will be the by-election there which is in one of our weakest wards. I guess we will just have to wait and see in the election results but I have usually been good with predicting elections for the BNP.

I am a supporter of canvassing and other tactics, which is why Liverpool BNP is now developing lots of new things which are being rolled out. We are determined to chase cretins such as Mcfadden out of Merseyside since he said he would drive us out xD.

blueblood1920 · 28-06-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress

If the BNP is so fantastic why was it almost unheard of in 1997, and only really known to its supporters and opponents outside of a few towns in 2002?

The BNP may have 100 councillors but how many people on the street can name just 5 of the councils with BNP representation?

I have never said it was fantastic in 1997, I know it was bad then and only just really got started off in 2002 I wont deny that and never have. However you speak as if DC has all the answers and is this perfect organisation yet it hasnt achieved anything noticable and its leaflets are hardly the highest quality (the information may be good but thats it). If people think they can do better than the current group of people at the top of an organisation then they need to prove themselves, something we seem to see a lack of.

Dissident Congress · 28-06-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by blueblood1920

I have never said it was fantastic in 1997, I know it was bad then and only just really got started off in 2002 I wont deny that and never have. However you speak as if DC has all the answers and is this perfect organisation yet it hasnt achieved anything noticable and its leaflets are hardly the highest quality (the information may be good but thats it). If people think they can do better than the current group of people at the top of an organisation then they need to prove themselves, something we seem to see a lack of.

Where did I say that DC has all the answers and is a perfect organisation? If you have read my posts you will find there are many questions that need answering - like who really votes for the Greens in Henley for starters. The general opinion held by DC members is that magic bullet type solutions are very few and far between in reality.

Our tactic is more of a coup d'etat of the establishment behind the back of the establishment as much as possible. Something DC has been working on is home education and establishing a patriotic home education network. We have also promoted English county flags as a tool against regional assemblies. One project that was temporarily halted by the authorities was TV licence evasion and removing part of a TV to make it undetectable by the detector vans.

What recommendations do you have for our leaflets?

Independence Now! · 28-06-2008, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by A66

Good to see Unionist parties UKIP & BNP, both smash the little Englander Democrats. BNP must fancy an east London seat in the none too distant general election.

Yes, that was good to see. The fact the MRLP beat them in Henley surely illustrates that either their policies are totally wrong or the way they present them (an anti-Scottish rant by Matt O'Conner for the London election broadcast comes to mind) is. That broadcast wasn't very wise for a city like London which is apparantly the third largest 'Scottish' city on earth.

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