twizzel and aarable in Henley

HM · 23-06-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vortex

According to UKIP's founder Alan Sked, Farage is supposed to have said to him "We will never get the n****r vote, the n*g n**s will never vote for us". To be fair to Farage, this hasn't been proven as far as I'm aware and is possibly sour grapes from Sked.

Buster Mottram joined the National Front in 1975 and was a member of the Richmond Branch. he wrote an article for John Tyndall's magazine Spearhead entitled "Why I joined the National Front". He certainly gave talks to several branches.

If Farage had said that, I would be disgusted. But you haven't really got dirt on either of them so your case doesn't really stand up. I will repeat that I don't know any specific Mottram comments though, so I can't say whether he is/isn't a racist.

twizzel · 24-06-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by UkipHM

Why would a self-describedly "libertarian, non-racist party" show any "courtesy and respect" to the draconian racists in the BNP? Yes. His sin.

I have to say that to date I have not experianced any racist tactics when I have spoken to the BNP.

It seems to me that a self discribed libertarian party would not object to my exercising my God given right to speak to whoever I like. Or can you be libertarian and try to remove my right of free speach something my ancestors fought and no dought some died to get for me.

It seems to me that any draconian policy is being implimented by you and those like you.

Aardvark · 24-06-2008, 06:07 PM

twizzel,

You're confusing your right to free speech subject to legal limitations on incitement, blasphemy, slander etc, with a political party's right to decide who might or might not be a member. I was expelled from the Tories for resigning the whip at district council; their rules, their call. I exercised my right to vote the way I thought my constituents would have wished and against all the other Tories as it turned out; that's life. If UKIP doesn't want its committee members speaking at BNP meetings that's fine. You can still speak at BNP meetings, but not under the UKIP banner.

I disagree with seemingly 90% of what you say, but I still think you can say it, garbage though I think it is.

God does not give a right to free speech, he expressly forbids the worshipping of other Gods.

chikrodah · 24-06-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aardvark

God does not give a right to free speech, he expressly forbids the worshipping of other Gods.

That rather depends on the god in question....

24-06-2008, 06:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,692	twizzel, You're confusing your right to free speech subject to legal limitations on incitement, blasphemy, slander etc, with a political party's right to decide who might or might not be a member. I was expelled from the Tories for resigning the whip at district council; their rules, their call. I exercised my right to vote the way I thought my constituents would have wished and against all the other Tories as it turned out; that's life. If UKIP doesn't want its committee members speaking at BNP meetings that's fine. You can still speak at BNP meetings, but not under the UKIP banner. I disagree with seemingly 90% of what you say, but I still think you can say it, garbage though I think it is. God does not give a right to free speech, he expressly forbids the worshipping of other Gods. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

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