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It's useful to review the figures again. >> With populism, what you want should be what you get. << True. If people want to maintain the status quo - even when offered the choice to change matters by a referendum - the result has to be accepted. Doesn't mean one can't try to persuade them otherwise during a referendum campaign. So far, assisted voluntary repatriation is on the Statute Books. Whether people would vote to abolish this is another matter. A referendum would be quite legitimate and then we'd see. Taking this point to another level, the same poll has support for the UK's withdrawal from the EU at 35%. Where does this leave the anti-EU Movement? Naturally. I draw a great distinction between a referendum and a public opinion poll. For one thing, in a P O P, no one is actually going to change/confirm something. There is scope for indulgence or whatever. In a referendum, people will have to live with what they decide. But for discussing the subject in general, a P O P is a useful feature.
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ENGLISH POPULISM Stands as the only obstacle in the path of the Plutocrats who seek to reduce all the Peoples of the World to Economic and Political Slavery under Globalism POPULISM MEANS WHAT YOU WANT IS WHAT YOU GET |
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Absolutely. The endgame for our side is: That Britain is not in the EU. >> so there is no point in changing strategy << Strategy is the overall means by which the desired result is achieved. UKIP's strategy is to win a UK General Election and then remove the UK from the EU by Repealing the 1972 European Communities Act. Another very extreme strategy might be to resort to a violent resistance - SOE-style - and try to liberate the UK by means of sabotage and the assassination of prominent EU-philes. And then there are strategies that fit between these two poles. One strategy could be to look at the *problem* from a different perspective - - "lateral thinking" is the expression. One of the most recent members to join the Populists is a former UKIP branch chairman. I shan't say where, nor why he left UKIP in total disgust at UKIP's higher-ups. Not to spare you lot your blushes, I should add; but to possibly use the information to more damaging effect at a later date. When I first met him a couple of years ago he told me he would never again join a political party - a consequence of being part of UKIP. I am very pleased he has changed his mind. Foremost he has hit upon a strategy and a way of looking at the problem that is quite different to the norm and if workable will achieve the desired result. I shall be very annoying and not give even a hint on a public board; but I like it and it is therefore work in progress for the Populists. UKIP can try it their way; and others will attempt another way . . .
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If all our campaigns we run as professionally as this one we'd be far ahead of where we are now. |
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As it stands at present, UKIPers on the ground in Henley are coming out with the opinion that their campaign is going well and should get at least the 5% required to save a Deposit. I'll run with that since I have no current evidence to the contrary. Now the marker has been set by the UKIP people involved, it'll be interesting to see how close to this assessment the result is. If better or worse, I'm genuinely interested to learn how people will react.
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ENGLISH POPULISM Stands as the only obstacle in the path of the Plutocrats who seek to reduce all the Peoples of the World to Economic and Political Slavery under Globalism POPULISM MEANS WHAT YOU WANT IS WHAT YOU GET |
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One thing you can be absolutely sure of and that is that the UKIP will not have to endure tens of thousands of illegal leaflets being distributed against them by scruffy left wing brit haters posing as defenders of democracy.
UKIP, like every other "acceptable" right wing 'nutter's' party will have an easy ride, and for that reason and that reason alone they should be capable of winning the bleedin' seat. Every vote that th BNP gets takes ten times as much effort and is ten times as rewarding. For the BNP to win, would be like UKIP coming second - a bleedin' miracle! Last edited by a swansong 4 europe; 19-06-2008 at 07:58 PM. |
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If I were a member of the BNP, I would not bang on about what the accounts of any other party may reveal, or when they will appear . . . I seem to recall yours were five and a half months late last year, so that even the pussy cat regulators of the Electoral Commission felt constrained to fine Gri££in and Walker (who has since walked!).
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