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Old 03-06-2008, 01:45 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Back to effect on UKIP of of BNP standing, 2005 records show BNP beating UKIP in also ultra Tory next door Maidenhead. This means for Henley really imaginative punchy & relevant passionate material must be put before electorate to show them why it isnt necessary to vote BNP to get their protest at the big 3 etc represeneted . Intellectual arguments on flat rate tax aint going to make it.
The BNP candidate in Maidenhead was Tim Rate too.
UKIP should not take a carefree/less attitude about the BNP or their Candidate in Henley

. . . In my Opinion.
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:06 PM   #32 (permalink)
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The BNP candidate in Maidenhead was Tim Rate too.
UKIP should not take a carefree/less attitude about the BNP or their Candidate in Henley

. . . In my Opinion.
So what should they do? Launch personal attacks like Tamsin Dunwoody did in C&N? If UKIP is seen to be going about launching major attacks on other parties, they will look more negative than they do already.
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:18 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Well shows how much you know, we usually have nick at BNP meetings about 3 times a year. Nick was down in London delivering leaflettes on numerous occasions, Nick is leading Northwest days of action, Nick has leafletted Liverpool in the past when it was much much more hostile than today.

You just sound like a crank pot with a grudge.
In my experience a West Mids unit was lucky to see him once a year, and in all that time, aside from attending Sandwell's St George parade, I never heard of him doing any other form of activism. There were no reports of him attending the Sedgefield by election, or any other election.

In the one year I was a member I saw Griffin four times, Kidderminster, East Birmingham, South Birmingham and Coventry. On three of those four occasions he delivered almost identical speeches.

Still he was no where near as a rare a sight as deputy leader and West Midland's organiser Simon Darby who I saw once.
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:29 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I do hate it when these threads descend to childish bickering.
This is not childish bickering, I am making the case that the BNP leadership is at best incompetent and at worst using the BNP as a vehicle for their personal enrichment.

I would suggest this is a significant issue which deserves your attention.
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I am thinking about the careless attitude that the BNP won't get many votes in Henley because there aren't enough of their *type* of Voters living in Henley.

I've put my money where my mouth is, so to speak, and been down to the Bookies . . .
These things are always worth a small flutter.
I said in an earlier post that politics is a gamble; and I meant it literally.
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What ever I say on crewe he wont accept it, so just waisting my time typing up a responce.

I have made my case, I have answered your objections and as far as I can see the case is proven.

On the other hand you have yet to answer a single one of the points I have made with anything but transparent nonsense.

Perhaps you should confine yourself to racial slurs, "big mama Ebank's" was it?
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This is not childish bickering, I am making the case that the BNP leadership is at best incompetent and at worst using the BNP as a vehicle for their personal enrichment.

I would suggest this is a significant issue which deserves your attention.
Definitely.
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What are you talking about? The BNP will never strike it big rurally, just face it. They are the party voted for by uneducated racists in the inner city. Wow, they won 150 votes in Chard, it doesn't mean they'll do very well at all here. And at least UKIP have intellectual policies, unlike the BNP's "we hate everyone outside Britain because they're all NON-INDIGENOUS MUSLIM TERRORISTS SO LET'S ECONOMICALLY AND POLITICALLY ISOLATE OURSELVES" type of stuff. Why anyone would register a protest vote for those jesters is beyond me.

And I don't see how in any way at all this result will predict the Euros in 2009? I think maybe you'r trying to comfort yourself with daydreaming here.
I, Sir, do admire your contempt for the conventions of PC, so few people today would dare express their snobbish prejudice with quite such relish.

You are also sadly misinformed, you should know that the BNP's best areas on almost invariably found in the suburbs of cities and towns not the "inner city" with large ethnic minorties. In Birmingham for example there is almost no support for the BNP in the "inner city" for obvious reasons.

You characterization of the BNP's policies is equally crude and misinformed.
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There's only one concern I have about this by-election, and that’s UKIP are still concentrating too much on the EU when we have all these new policies.
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because of the low-paid racist vote
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