Populist Lee

Yes, the sooner people start doing this the better; as in this instance the narrow box is a coffin . . .

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For_England

Yes, that is a concern. Is there any way forward out of this mess? I'm sorry, but I just can't see the BNP making any more progress the way it's going - I would rather take my chances, but I would be very concerned about the party becoming civic nationalist.

For_England

Yep, though that doesn't mean I agree with wowbanger either. Things are pretty desperate and we need to look outside the box. I'm beginning to wonder again if we'll ever sort the mess out.

HM

"Mess"? I've been consistently told by the extremist far-right toadies on this forum that the BNP is getting better. Have I been misinformed?

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Wowbanger TIP

As I have said many times I don't have a problem with the manifesto. Save for the daft bits like assault rifles under the bed. Not that I think an armed citizenry is a bad thing, just that I recognize it as unsalable in the current environment.

The main changes I would make is to disarm the opposition by totally removing all traces of racism and fascism. So I would not ban immigration for none whites, I'd ban it for everyone. I would not have a voluntary repatriation scheme for none whites but for everyone with majority none British heritage post 45'. I would allow none white membership, as long as they signed the same constitution as everyone else.

I would also begin an education process designed to give all activists a basic political grounding in nationalist thought. As well as in basic political tactics. This could be done on internet courses for which accreditation would be issued.

The most radical change I propose is to create an elite group of professional full time paid activists. This would consist of the leadership of the Party and they would take the fight to the streets. This would then be packaged and publicized through the website as part of a systematic campaign of internet promotion. Contrary to conventional wisdom the revolution would be televised. I wrote extensively about this proposal on my Brummie 76 blog under the title total politics.

I would also like to see the Party made totally transparent, because I believe this would make it more effective and distinguish it from the Establishment.

I would also place a much greater emphasis on the direct democracy policies of the Party.

Wowbanger TIP

hard to say, who informed you?

HM

Blueblood, Ken, BC all seem very happy to brag about how incredible the BNP is. I think The Wanderer and alfred the great have told me before about the party's present brilliance as well. Vortex likes to pretend they are hitting it big in middle England.

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Wowbanger TIP

If the odds were 100/1 against it's survival it would still be a necessary risk since the Party is going nowhere with Griffin aboard.

Of course if Griffin gave a toss he would confess all and get the old political service revolver out of the desk drawer. Problem solved.

I can't see the BNP ever going down the intellectually bankrupt civic nationalist path. Its not like it offers massive political advantages.

Moreover Auty has placed himself far more on the line than Griffin. Auty lives in Dewsbury not at the infinitely remote end of the M54. Auty doesn't have six cheap nightclub bouncers with him every time he ventures out in public. Auty carries his testes about in a wheelbarrow in the manor of Buster Gonad and I should doubt he is very likely to water down the BNP for fear of being told off by Hazel Blears.

Wowbanger TIP

I absolute terms the BNP's performance, currently, means that their success rate is about 1% of all the local election contests it enters. Its average support in such contests is around 15%. However this figure has been stable for a least a few years and in areas such as Birmingham there has been a considerable fall in support, down by a third between 2006 and 7 and down on 7 in 8. I believe that this suggests that the BNP's electoral fortunes spiked in 2006 following the London bombing and is now in decline. There is no evidence that Griffin's "reformation" of the Party has had any large scale impact. Looking at this years GLA's the BNP's performance across London was roughly matched by the NF in the constituencies it stood.

Also note the London result reflected a net gain of about 1% over five years, or 70,000 votes in a city of eight million.

There is no evidence of the BNP making significant progress since 2006 and quite a lot to suggest the opposite.

Certainly the Party has managed to move into middle England but it has had no significant success there and this has been counter balanced by a fall in support in its very few established areas.

If you supported any other Party but UKIP you could mock away.

HM

Even Labour?

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