Glenrothes by-election

pr1 · 27-09-2008, 12:14 PM

Polling date likely to be 6 November

fellow traveller · 11-10-2008, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aardvark

Sadly we will get humiliated. SNP are on a roll and the Labour vote will wither and die.

to close to call, collapse of world banking system helping Brown. Two main Scottish Banks now bailed out by Labour, SNP local income tax plan now critisised as it relies UK tax payer to subsidise for those unemployed in scotland.

Aardvark · 12-10-2008, 01:22 PM

fellow traveller, You are probably correct.

A week is a long time in politics and last week must have been one of the longest weeks for the SNP. A policy of independence based on the strength of Scotland's financial institutions is flawed when the real value of those institutions is seen to be a fraction of what it was when the policy was announced. The fact that Salmond has now turned to the UK and asked for assistance in underwriting his local authorities' investments in failed Icelandic banks (within the arc of prosperity he seeks to join) means that he has ducked an issue. Local government finance is a devolved responsibility, but financial regulation is UK based. Salmond is hoist by his own petard. He seeks UK taxpayers' support for his local government finances.

House sales in Scotland are based on a different system to England and Wales. 75% of houses are not making asking price and many people are losing 20% or more on the price of their homes. The Scotsman has 38000 job losses forecast for the next year.

The by-election could go either way. It will not however go UKIP's way. UKIP will be lucky to make 3 figures.

Baron von Lotsov · 12-10-2008, 03:06 PM

Still, it is an important election. Labour have a huge majority in this area, some 10 000 odd votes, but going on how well the SNP are doing it might just be possible they gain the seat. If they do then we will be back on the leadership business with Nu Labour. Then if we are very lucky that will bring the general election forward, something that really needs to happen. So this election is more about the fate of the country as a whole, and the UKIP would be wise to be seen to be involved, because it will get a lot of media attention. Long term this could benefit the UKIP.

Aardvark · 12-10-2008, 08:23 PM

BvL, I don't share your optimism. If UKIP get 50 or so votes, which is highly likely in a 2 horse race with all to play for, we will not be seen as credible in a GE north of the border. The Tories must be dreading losing their deposit and possibly coming 4th or 5th. UKIP will be behind Labour, SNP, LibDem, Tory, Green, SSP and possibly any local independents or breakaway socialists. If we do better than 6th I will be pleasantly surprised.

fellow traveller · 13-10-2008, 01:51 AM

Kris Seunarine got 32 votes in ward 23. Labours Heartland. Very popular independant councillor Rodger takes up most of the non labour votes. So may not be fully representative of support
fifedirect - Fife Council Local Government Elections 3 May 2007

Aardvark · 13-10-2008, 10:09 AM

Very creditable 12th out of 13.

STV allows people to indulge themselves. The omens are not good.

Carlos · 20-10-2008, 06:04 PM

Nah thought this one would be a key battle between SNP and Labour.

pr1 · 21-10-2008, 07:58 PM

Nominations have closed. The candidates for November 6th are

Morag BALFOUR (SSP)
Maurice GOLDEN (Conservative)
Peter GRANT (SNP)
Lousie McLEARY (Solidarity)
Jim PARKER (SSCU)
Lindsay ROY (Labour)
Kris SEUNARINE (UKIP)
Harry WILLS (LibDem)

cassie · 23-10-2008, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr1

Nominations have closed. The candidates for November 6th are

Morag BALFOUR (SSP)
Maurice GOLDEN (Conservative)
Peter GRANT (SNP)
Lousie McLEARY (Solidarity)
Jim PARKER (SSCU)
Lindsay ROY (Labour)
Kris SEUNARINE (UKIP)
Harry WILLS (LibDem)

Good luck to UKIP's Kris SEUNARINE!

The others can go and boil their heads.

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12-10-2008, 01:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,981	fellow traveller, You are probably correct. A week is a long time in politics and last week must have been one of the longest weeks for the SNP. A policy of independence based on the strength of Scotland's financial institutions is flawed when the real value of those institutions is seen to be a fraction of what it was when the policy was announced. The fact that Salmond has now turned to the UK and asked for assistance in underwriting his local authorities' investments in failed Icelandic banks (within the arc of prosperity he seeks to join) means that he has ducked an issue. Local government finance is a devolved responsibility, but financial regulation is UK based. Salmond is hoist by his own petard. He seeks UK taxpayers' support for his local government finances. House sales in Scotland are based on a different system to England and Wales. 75% of houses are not making asking price and many people are losing 20% or more on the price of their homes. The Scotsman has 38000 job losses forecast for the next year. The by-election could go either way. It will not however go UKIP's way. UKIP will be lucky to make 3 figures. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

12-10-2008, 03:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
Baron von Lotsov Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,137	Still, it is an important election. Labour have a huge majority in this area, some 10 000 odd votes, but going on how well the SNP are doing it might just be possible they gain the seat. If they do then we will be back on the leadership business with Nu Labour. Then if we are very lucky that will bring the general election forward, something that really needs to happen. So this election is more about the fate of the country as a whole, and the UKIP would be wise to be seen to be involved, because it will get a lot of media attention. Long term this could benefit the UKIP. __________________ "A government big enough to supply you with everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have..."

12-10-2008, 08:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,981	BvL, I don't share your optimism. If UKIP get 50 or so votes, which is highly likely in a 2 horse race with all to play for, we will not be seen as credible in a GE north of the border. The Tories must be dreading losing their deposit and possibly coming 4th or 5th. UKIP will be behind Labour, SNP, LibDem, Tory, Green, SSP and possibly any local independents or breakaway socialists. If we do better than 6th I will be pleasantly surprised. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

13-10-2008, 10:09 AM	#17 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,981	Very creditable 12th out of 13. STV allows people to indulge themselves. The omens are not good. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

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27-09-2008, 12:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
pr1 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Preston Posts: 46 Party: Other	Polling date likely to be 6 November

13-10-2008, 01:51 AM	#16 (permalink)
fellow traveller Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 7	Kris Seunarine got 32 votes in ward 23. Labours Heartland. Very popular independant councillor Rodger takes up most of the non labour votes. So may not be fully representative of support fifedirect - Fife Council Local Government Elections 3 May 2007

20-10-2008, 06:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
Carlos Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3	Nah thought this one would be a key battle between SNP and Labour.

21-10-2008, 07:58 PM	#19 (permalink)
pr1 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Preston Posts: 46 Party: Other	Nominations have closed. The candidates for November 6th are Morag BALFOUR (SSP) Maurice GOLDEN (Conservative) Peter GRANT (SNP) Lousie McLEARY (Solidarity) Jim PARKER (SSCU) Lindsay ROY (Labour) Kris SEUNARINE (UKIP) Harry WILLS (LibDem)