Should the anti EU parties work together at the next election?

For_England · 22-11-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Millennium3

I think they are preoccupied with other things at the moment.

What I don't understand is how anyone from this forum can vote don't know/don't care in the poll - I wish I hadn't put it in.

Either way, it will be difficult to gain a consensus no matter what.

Millennium3 · 22-11-2007, 07:09 PM

Yes - if it is not possible, at least it eliminates one course of action.

The Nationalist · 22-06-2008, 03:59 PM

An anti-EU message that is expressed by all parties that oppose it explaining why people should not want to join this super state may reduce votes to the pro-EU parties. Many just see the Conservative and New labour party as options when they are really the same thing. It should be more of a question of Pro-EU or against EU with our parliament just being used to represent the EU state in the sub state of Britain. With the sub states of the British state under that, all the government is achieving is add more red tape and prevent the nations of Britain to govern them selves as needed by the people.

BonnieDundee · 24-06-2008, 08:40 AM

I voted for without the BNP but with a different package. The BNP and far-right would simply discredit us and we should keep away from them. I thought the package was a bit tame.

a swansong 4 europe · 27-06-2008, 02:09 PM

In simple terms, "yes". There is really no other course of action.

Millennium3 · 27-06-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

I voted for without the BNP but with a different package. The BNP and far-right would simply discredit us and we should keep away from them. I thought the package was a bit tame.

I think it was ok back in November when I proposed it - things have moved on since.

HM · 27-06-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by A66

How can Ukip work with the English Democrats ?. I is already a fact that the English Democrats are best friends with the pro-EU SNP, and share conference platforms !. The only partnership to consider is Ukip / BNP. Together they could win.

Yes, a non-racist libertarian party and a hardline right-wing authoritarian party seeking to empower only whites will prove very successful and internally stable, I'm sure!

a swansong 4 europe · 29-06-2008, 10:14 PM

A UKIP merger with the EDP and promoting itself as a new "English Democratic Indpendence Party" would be far more promising and could, I suspect, be far more of an electoral challenge to the BNP. Even the sterling logo could simply be re-incorporated with the initials EDIP rather than UKIP; it would require relatively little change publicity wise (stickers could easily be placed over posters, for example) and "EE-DIP", not "U-KIP" would become the new phrase of the day.

One thing is for sure, it would have to avoid the constant blathering on about Scots in the government and fight for the British people of England, not just the English if you get my meaning. In doing so it will simply be acknowledging that if, ultimately, Scotland and Wales will decide their own fates, then England must do so as well.

ryansoton · 06-07-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by david H

Asking as an independent, who is it you people dislike about the BNP the leadership or every member? You are given to sweeping generalisations.

Personally my experience of BNP members is not great.

My view of the BNP members has come from first hand experience of the songs they sang about the Irish and being Irish I take offence.

I even gave a member who had been at the meeting the chance to redem his self by telling me which Irish they were refering too to which he replied all of them the are scum.

The meeting was taking place above a pub I was in.

Hence why i would never work with the BNP.

Freedom from the EU · 23-08-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ryansoton

Personally my experience of BNP members is not great.

My view of the BNP members has come from first hand experience of the songs they sang about the Irish and being Irish I take offence.

I even gave a member who had been at the meeting the chance to redem his self by telling me which Irish they were refering too to which he replied all of them the are scum.

The meeting was taking place above a pub I was in.

Hence why i would never work with the BNP.

I think you have just made this up as i have been to meetings, this years red white and blue and seen no anti Irish talk at all but have met with Irish people in the BNP Including the local organiser in my area who has Irish routes and proudly wears a celtic cross and celtic shirt at BNP events.

View Poll Results: Should the anti EU parties work together at the next GE?
No	16	29.63%
Yes - with the package defined.	15	27.78%
Yes - but with a different package	4	7.41%
Yes - but without the BNP with the package defined	8	14.81%
Yes - but without the BNP with a different package	7	12.96%
Don't know/care	4	7.41%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

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22-11-2007, 07:09 PM	#32 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 3,939	Yes - if it is not possible, at least it eliminates one course of action.

22-06-2008, 03:59 PM	#33 (permalink)
The Nationalist Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 151 Party: BNP	An anti-EU message that is expressed by all parties that oppose it explaining why people should not want to join this super state may reduce votes to the pro-EU parties. Many just see the Conservative and New labour party as options when they are really the same thing. It should be more of a question of Pro-EU or against EU with our parliament just being used to represent the EU state in the sub state of Britain. With the sub states of the British state under that, all the government is achieving is add more red tape and prevent the nations of Britain to govern them selves as needed by the people.

27-06-2008, 02:09 PM	#35 (permalink)
a swansong 4 europe Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 411	In simple terms, "yes". There is really no other course of action.

29-06-2008, 10:14 PM	#38 (permalink)
a swansong 4 europe Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 411	A UKIP merger with the EDP and promoting itself as a new "English Democratic Indpendence Party" would be far more promising and could, I suspect, be far more of an electoral challenge to the BNP. Even the sterling logo could simply be re-incorporated with the initials EDIP rather than UKIP; it would require relatively little change publicity wise (stickers could easily be placed over posters, for example) and "EE-DIP", not "U-KIP" would become the new phrase of the day. One thing is for sure, it would have to avoid the constant blathering on about Scots in the government and fight for the British people of England, not just the English if you get my meaning. In doing so it will simply be acknowledging that if, ultimately, Scotland and Wales will decide their own fates, then England must do so as well.