Yellow Labour leader "bottler Brown" was told to call election before Tory conference

Britannist · 07-10-2007, 04:53 AM

Brown bottles it: PM decides against snap election as poll shows Tory lead | the Daily Mail

Kevin Adamson · 07-10-2007, 11:40 AM

so we have to spend the next 2 years with an unelected prime minister ?

some democracy !

arden forester · 07-10-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ranter

so we have to spend the next 2 years with an unelected prime minister ?

some democracy !

The answer is yes, in our parliamentary system. If the Prime Minister of the day spent more time as primus inter pares and not as Blair did, then the country would be more at ease with the system.

Most of us keep saying we don't what a presidential type leader. The Labour Party was elected for a full term so, unless there is a proper reason to hold an election, they should serve that term and then put their ideas to the electorate.

It is a proper reason for a PM like Gordon Brown to ask for a dissolution in order to seek a fresh mandate as soon as he took over. Now is not a proper reason. He will only again have a proper reason in 2009/10.

I would have liked an election personally, but that does not sit with the niceties of the conventions. Brown messed up big time and can now be seen as the one who bottled it!

Britannist · 07-10-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ranter

so we have to spend the next 2 years with an unelected prime minister ?

An unelected Prime Minister whose party won the last General Election on 21.4% of all voters; who won't give us a vote on the EU 'Treaty'; won't call a General Election and who, as a Scottish MP, will be proposing legislation in the House of Commons for England only which will be voted through partly by Scottish constituency MPs whose constituents are unaffected by such legislation.

rjt · 07-10-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ranter

so we have to spend the next 2 years with an unelected prime minister ?

some democracy !

We elect political partys not Prime Ministers, The Queen appoints Prime Ministers.

arden forester · 07-10-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rjt

We elect political partys not Prime Ministers, The Queen appoints Prime Ministers.

Precisely! That is our system. We no more vote for a prime minister than we do the Chancellor of the exchequor or any other minister. However, a newly appointed prime minister could seek a fresh mandate. Brown squandered that right by trying to get appointed/crowned leader (in which he succeded) and leaving it for over 3 months before allowing the likes of Douglas Alexander to go round telling anybody who would listen that his boss was contemplating an election. Alexander is now getting the blame for the lack of fizz in the bottle!

Britannist · 07-10-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by arden forester

(Douglas) Alexander is now getting the blame for the lack of fizz in the bottle!

Good. He should never have got to become an MP, let alone a Minister.

Kevin Adamson · 09-10-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rjt

We elect political partys not Prime Ministers, The Queen appoints Prime Ministers.

that may be the system but it is not the fact.

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