New poll of polls says Labour's majority could be cut to 32 in early General Election

Britannist · 24-09-2007, 12:50 AM

Brown to delay poll decision as he sets out stall for fourth term - Independent Online Edition > UK Politics

Independent UKIP · 24-09-2007, 01:13 AM

If he can get a majority of 32 now with a policy of parliamentary only endorsement of the EU constitution in the manifesto then he would be mad not to do so. That issue of the EU constitution has been lacking from what I have read about whether Brown will go for the election now or later. Even Richard North hasn't emphasised it for a while.

Britannist · 24-09-2007, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Independent UKIP

If he can get a majority of 32 now with a policy of parliamentary only endorsement of the EU constitution in the manifesto then he would be mad not to do so. That issue of the EU constitution has been lacking from what I have read about whether Brown will go for the election now or later. Even Richard North hasn't emphasised it for a while.

A poll in today's Sun by IPSOS/Mori suggests that if Gordon Brown does not say he is going to allow a referendum on the EU 'Treaty' before calling a General Election he could find that Labour end up only 1% ahead of the Conservatives (the same poll points out that if Brown does agree to a 'Treaty' referendum his opinion poll lead would increase to 17%):

Click here to vote in Sun 'Treaty' poll - 17% lead for Brown if he backs referendum

Britannist · 24-09-2007, 04:08 AM

Columnist John Rentoul wrote in yesterday's Independent on Sunday "There is not the remotest chance that Brown would take the risk of matching George Canning's record as the shortest-serving Prime Minister... The risk of losing may seem small, but it is not one that any Prime Minister would take. Allowing others to speculate is another matter. It works wonders for party discipline."

girlfriday · 25-09-2007, 07:46 PM

So, with a 32 seat lead, The Liebourites would still stay in office. Somehow certain aspects of this discussion remind me of when Enoch Powell urged people to vote Labour in the 1970's as they promised a referendum on the Common Markket - and we have an awful lot to thank him for that disaster!

Britannist · 25-09-2007, 08:08 PM

Alot of people think (The Late) Enoch Powell called on people to vote Labour in February 1974 to get europhile Heath out.

steve fowler · 25-09-2007, 09:00 PM

I respect Enoch Powell he did his job back then but the filthy europile Ted Heath stabbed him in the back when he spoke the truth about our country.

Powell should be remembered but Heath should be wiped from our history as he betrayed us and i tell you now i wont miss him!.

Britannist · 26-09-2007, 12:25 AM

Everything (The Late) Enoch Powell said about the EEC/EU has proved to be correct.

arden forester · 27-09-2007, 01:27 PM

It should be the task of every candidate representing a party opposed to New Labour to expose their South Sea Bubble approach to the economy.

This is an administration that has given MPs the best-ever pension provisions and allowed a Chancellor to wreck the status of ordinary pensioners. Some getting virtually nothing from what they thought they would get.

The economy will get worse. I don't like to say it, but the present crowd are masters and mistresses of spin. They have let even more crooks and credit cretins out of the closet than any that they claimed Margaret Thatcher did. £4 BILLION pound spent on mis-selling PPI on finance deals for starters. Then there is the UK sub-prime nonsense to unravel. It appears only those NOT affected by the ghasty errors of this government will vote Labour.

By the way, that Ed Balls and his wife, Yvette Cooper, have been quite nicely using their House of Commons travel/being away expenses to buy a second home AND THEN REMORGAGING IT to obtain more cash! What hypocrites!!

Ed Balls and Yvette Cooper are no longer socialists!

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g hall · 28-09-2007, 09:17 PM

New Labour - corrupt and venal - discuss

24-09-2007, 12:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	New poll of polls says Labour's majority could be cut to 32 in early General Election Brown to delay poll decision as he sets out stall for fourth term - Independent Online Edition > UK Politics

24-09-2007, 04:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Brown, John Rentoul, George Canning, Prime Minister Columnist John Rentoul wrote in yesterday's Independent on Sunday "There is not the remotest chance that Brown would take the risk of matching George Canning's record as the shortest-serving Prime Minister... The risk of losing may seem small, but it is not one that any Prime Minister would take. Allowing others to speculate is another matter. It works wonders for party discipline."

25-09-2007, 08:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Enoch Powell, europhile Heath, 1974, Labour Alot of people think (The Late) Enoch Powell called on people to vote Labour in February 1974 to get europhile Heath out.

26-09-2007, 12:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	(The Late) Enoch Powell, EU Everything (The Late) Enoch Powell said about the EEC/EU has proved to be correct.

27-09-2007, 01:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,699 Party: None	Unmasking Brown's deceptions! It should be the task of every candidate representing a party opposed to New Labour to expose their South Sea Bubble approach to the economy. This is an administration that has given MPs the best-ever pension provisions and allowed a Chancellor to wreck the status of ordinary pensioners. Some getting virtually nothing from what they thought they would get. The economy will get worse. I don't like to say it, but the present crowd are masters and mistresses of spin. They have let even more crooks and credit cretins out of the closet than any that they claimed Margaret Thatcher did. £4 BILLION pound spent on mis-selling PPI on finance deals for starters. Then there is the UK sub-prime nonsense to unravel. It appears only those NOT affected by the ghasty errors of this government will vote Labour. By the way, that Ed Balls and his wife, Yvette Cooper, have been quite nicely using their House of Commons travel/being away expenses to buy a second home AND THEN REMORGAGING IT to obtain more cash! What hypocrites!! Ed Balls and Yvette Cooper are no longer socialists! BBC NEWS \| Business \| Capital One fined over PPI sales BBC NEWS \| Business \| Jessops boss quits as sales fall BBC NEWS \| Business \| Industry boss blasts bank system Reclaim Payment Protection Insurance Prices slashed by half as electrical retailers fight for sales \| the Daily Mail __________________ www.ardenforester.blogspot.com www.westminster-whispers.blogspot.com

24-09-2007, 01:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
Independent UKIP Uber Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 2,427	If he can get a majority of 32 now with a policy of parliamentary only endorsement of the EU constitution in the manifesto then he would be mad not to do so. That issue of the EU constitution has been lacking from what I have read about whether Brown will go for the election now or later. Even Richard North hasn't emphasised it for a while.

25-09-2007, 07:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
girlfriday Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: england Posts: 238	So, with a 32 seat lead, The Liebourites would still stay in office. Somehow certain aspects of this discussion remind me of when Enoch Powell urged people to vote Labour in the 1970's as they promised a referendum on the Common Markket - and we have an awful lot to thank him for that disaster!

25-09-2007, 09:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
steve fowler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,201 Party: None	I respect Enoch Powell he did his job back then but the filthy europile Ted Heath stabbed him in the back when he spoke the truth about our country. Powell should be remembered but Heath should be wiped from our history as he betrayed us and i tell you now i wont miss him!.

28-09-2007, 09:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
g hall Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: erewhon Posts: 5,638	New Labour - corrupt and venal - discuss __________________ "That government is best which governs least." "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries". "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful." TANSTAAFL TANJ

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