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Old 19-07-2008, 11:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Exactly what is Britain all about?

It's a multi-culti la-la land full of PC people, a country which still thinks its a world power, it's overcrowded, dirty, uncaring, a big brother state, its people are highly taxed, it's a country which freely hands over its peoples' democratic rights to foreign powers, it's in debt up to its eyeballs, it allows criminals to roam our ever-increasing unsafe streets, it grants asylum to some of the world's leading terrorists, it's a country ruled by the privileged classes, it allows unelected people to rule our lives, it lacks democracy, it wages war in foreign lands for no other reason than to flex its muscles, it has uncontrolled borders, it sells its utility companies to foreign owners who squeeze every last penny out of people, it builds over its beautiful spaces to house its ever-growing immigrant population, it pays its pensioners a pittance after a lifetime of work, its roads and trains have ground to a halt, and it delivers appalling public services.

That is what Britain is today.

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It is well known that when no one takes or is permitted to take ownership of an asset, it becomes abused and devalued! The EU has done this on a grand scale with a number of such assets. Compare fishing in the two hundred mile areas around Britain with that of Norway's.

The Brit parties have wrought a similar condition on Britain itself, in particular on England and, even more particularly, on greater London!


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Old 19-07-2008, 12:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Exactly what is Britain all about?

It's a multi-culti la-la land full of PC people,
Government perhaps, but not the wider population.

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a country which still thinks its a world power,
The UK's influence extends around the globe. Diplomatically, though perhaps not militarily, we are a 'world power'.

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it's overcrowded,
Perhaps in the towns and cities.

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dirty,
Get your fellow countrymen to stop dropping litter then.

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uncaring,
I dispute this. If I remember correctly then the UK population gives more to charity per head of population than most (if not all) other countries. Not to mention that most, if not all, would try and help someone in distress, call the appropriate authorities etc.

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a big brother state, its people are highly taxed,
Yes, the state needs rolling back.

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it's a country which freely hands over its peoples' democratic rights to foreign powers,
Not strictly true, since it's technically possible to use your vote to elect an anti-EU party and thus leave the EU. You may also wish to leave the UN.

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it's in debt up to its eyeballs,
Yes, government debt needs to cut drastically.

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it lacks democracy,
How, exactly? Last time I checked, we still has local and general elections.

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it wages war in foreign lands for no other reason than to flex its muscles,
You can blame Blair for that.

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it has uncontrolled borders,
Again not true, I plainly remember the massive queue I had to get through at Dover to get through passport control.

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it sells its utility companies to foreign owners who squeeze every last penny out of people,
I have no problem with foreign ownership of companies (and neither should you). Squeezing money out of people is the nature of business - British or otherwise.

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it builds over its beautiful spaces to house its ever-growing immigrant population,
And the natives too.

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it pays its pensioners a pittance after a lifetime of work,
If you're not happy with the state pension then start saving and set up private schemes. Given the ageing population of the UK and the state of public finances I have already accepted that by the time I come to retire, there probably won't even be a state pension, even though I pay NI.

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its roads and trains have ground to a halt,
Well you either concrete over the countryside for new roads, or deal with the congestion. As for trains, the network desperately needs to be upgraded/replaced - which thankfully Network Rail is looking into.

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and it delivers appalling public services.
I don't know about that - from what I have seen of public services (mostly at the county council level) they are full of professionals who do a good job on low pay (esp. when compared to what the could get in the private sector). Civil servants in particular are poorly paid, contrary to popular belief.
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Old 19-07-2008, 05:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A fairly good description of britain today RTL. What we need to do is create a better England from the rubble the British state shall leave behind.
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There's certainly room for improvement!
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Anyone who carries an EU passport can always expect to take a long time going through the UK immigration lines,this is simple to understand surely,the reason is,NOW WE HAVE 27 EU COUNTRY'S QUEUEING IN ONLYONE LINE.

All EU passport holders to the left,all others to the right.

Next time,just watch the NON EU QUEUE,you will see them flying through,fifty to the dozen.
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Anyone who carries an EU passport can always expect to take a long time going through the UK immigration lines,this is simple to understand surely,the reason is,NOW WE HAVE 27 EU COUNTRY'S QUEUEING IN ONLYONE LINE.

All EU passport holders to the left,all others to the right.

Next time,just watch the NON EU QUEUE,you will see them flying through,fifty to the dozen.
My point was not the length of the queue, but rather the fact that everyone had their passport and relevant travel documents checked thoroughly before entering the country - that's not what I'd call 'uncontrolled borders'. Rather, there is a problem tracking people who are staying in the country illegally and then deporting them.
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That problem exist in every country,people blend into the countryside,or wallpaper even.

It is only of benefit within the 26 contagious states,movement is free,without borders.

If we Brits cross the water to visit our country which is now the EU,we will be checked into it at the first port of call,internal movement is then unhibited.

Its a mess,I have driven from Portugal thru Spain,France and into Italy,returning through France,Luxemberg,Belgium and to Dover,without being checked out once,WE ARE DOOMED IN THE UK.
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Eh? Personally, I think Schengen is a great idea - it meant no delays at the Franco-German border.

Can you also please explain how we are 'DOOMED' in the UK?
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Eh? Personally, I think Schengen is a great idea - it meant no delays at the Franco-German border.

Can you also please explain how we are 'DOOMED' in the UK?

You must be part of the LIB-LAB-CON if you need to ask such a question,do you think everything is ok here and just hunkydory?

Libertarian indeed!
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