The irony of the EU Treaty vote

cassie · 14-06-2008, 02:14 PM

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Northumbrian asserts: "If Great Britain and Ireland were one nation, then the Irish wouldn't have been allowed to hold a referendum."

This sage can tell us exactly what would have happened over the intervening years between 1928 and 2008 had Ireland remained part of the UK! Amazing isn't it? He knows what governments would have been elected, how long they would have been in office, whether we would have declared war against Germany in 1939, whether we would have signed the Treaty of Rome in 1958 etc etc

The trouble is - he actually believes all his whimsy and, because I have the temerity to call it into question, he becomes abusive! Not a happy, chappie!

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cassie · 14-06-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

Hang on, you shifted ground by saying I was obsessed with wrecking the UK!

So how does this work? When you change the subject, you don't want anyone to reply to that?

Except apparently, you never change the subject?

Hmmm... I'll have to consider that paradox....

FACT: I was responding to the personal attack in your Post#5. What ground there did I move from?

Pay attention!

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Northumbrian · 14-06-2008, 02:18 PM

Northumbrian asserts: "If Great Britain and Ireland were one nation, then the Irish wouldn't have been allowed to hold a referendum."

Well it's true isn't it? Like Scotland can't hold a referendum.

Anyway, I noticed you haven't replied to my answer of why I want to 'wreck' the Union. Perhaps, gosh, you can emphasise with my reasoning.

Northumbrian · 14-06-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

FACT: I was responding to the personal attack in your Post#5. What ground there did I move from?

Pay attention!

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Which confirms you think you never change the subject.

Oh! To be so perfect!!!

cassie · 14-06-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

Northumbrian asserts: "If Great Britain and Ireland were one nation, then the Irish wouldn't have been allowed to hold a referendum."

I think you mean one state [comprising four nations!] It's a hypothetical question, and I may give any theoretical answer I wish to give.

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

Well it's true isn't it? Like Scotland can't hold a referendum.

if Salmond has the power to hold a referendum about Scotland's independence from the UK, he also have the power to hold one about adopting the Lisbon Treaty or even about Scotland's independence from the EU.

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

Anyway, I noticed you haven't replied to my answer of why I want to 'wreck' the Union. Perhaps, gosh, you can emphasise with my reasoning.

Which question is that?

ANGLO-STAFFS · 14-06-2008, 03:58 PM

I was going to comment on here regarding the EU vote but no other ****** seems to have, so I wont trespass on a domestic tiff.

cassie · 14-06-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

Which confirms you think you never change the subject.

Oh! To be so perfect!!!

OK! What was the subject in Post#5, and what subject did I move onto?

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cassie · 14-06-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS

I was going to comment on here regarding the EU vote but no other ****** seems to have, so I wont trespass on a domestic tiff.

Good man! I'll nail this whimsical person to the floor if it's the last thing I do!

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Northumbrian · 14-06-2008, 05:07 PM

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if Salmond has the power to hold a referendum about Scotland's independence from the UK, he also have the power to hold one about adopting the Lisbon Treaty or even about Scotland's independence from the EU.

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Have you got any evidence to confirm that?

cassie · 14-06-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

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Originally Posted by cassie

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if Salmond has the power to hold a referendum about Scotland's independence from the UK, he also have the power to hold one about adopting the Lisbon Treaty or even about Scotland's independence from the EU.

Have you got any evidence to confirm that?

It is a conditional argument not reliant upon 'evidence'! Did you not notice the word 'if'?

Now! What was the question you referred to in Post#13?

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14-06-2008, 02:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
cassie Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,923	________________________ Northumbrian asserts: "If Great Britain and Ireland were one nation, then the Irish wouldn't have been allowed to hold a referendum." This sage can tell us exactly what would have happened over the intervening years between 1928 and 2008 had Ireland remained part of the UK! Amazing isn't it? He knows what governments would have been elected, how long they would have been in office, whether we would have declared war against Germany in 1939, whether we would have signed the Treaty of Rome in 1958 etc etc The trouble is - he actually believes all his whimsy and, because I have the temerity to call it into question, he becomes abusive! Not a happy, chappie! _______________________

14-06-2008, 02:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
Northumbrian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England Posts: 1,463 Party: Free England Party	Northumbrian asserts: "If Great Britain and Ireland were one nation, then the Irish wouldn't have been allowed to hold a referendum." Well it's true isn't it? Like Scotland can't hold a referendum. Anyway, I noticed you haven't replied to my answer of why I want to 'wreck' the Union. Perhaps, gosh, you can emphasise with my reasoning.

14-06-2008, 03:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
ANGLO-STAFFS Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 640	I was going to comment on here regarding the EU vote but no other ****** seems to have, so I wont trespass on a domestic tiff.

14-06-2008, 05:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
Northumbrian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England Posts: 1,463 Party: Free England Party	[quote=cassie;512768]I if Salmond has the power to hold a referendum about Scotland's independence from the UK, he also have the power to hold one about adopting the Lisbon Treaty or even about Scotland's independence from the EU. QUOTE] Have you got any evidence to confirm that?