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Old 16-05-2008, 02:01 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Didn't our former esteemed leader Blair tell the Scots they be would be financially worse off if they became independent? Someone must be supporting them, and it isn't Wales. If they would be worse off, then England must be better off. We can't all lose. Doesn't take much figuring out.
Martin your Independence argument has being BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER.
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Martin your Independence argument has being BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER.
What are you on? You haven't given me a decent argument against it!
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Martin your Independence argument has being BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER.
How has it been blown out of the water? please explain to us how the learned Danny has destroyed the English independence argument by his stunning debating skills and his factual evidence.
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I think there is plenty of room in British politics for a pro-England Unionist approach (supported by UKIP) a pro-English Federal approach as espoused by the EDP and a pro-English Independence stance as held by the FEP.


I find the above three options far more interesting then the same old Lib/Lab/Con approach to politics.

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Constantine and O'Connor are at least having a go.

Look at the existing leaders - anyone who thinks the 'leaders' and I use that term loosely, of the Eng Dems are going anywhere apart from bust need a reality check.

Also the people having a pop at O'Connor should take a long, hard look at his track record rather than the (yawn) usual smears. F4J is apparently going great guns and has all it's original members on board. And it's a household name which you can't say for this movement.

Of course the proof of the pudding is in the eating but rather than complaining perhaps people should get up and do something themselves.
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Constantine and O'Connor are at least having a go.

Look at the existing leaders - anyone who thinks the 'leaders' and I use that term loosely, of the Eng Dems are going anywhere apart from bust need a reality check.

Also the people having a pop at O'Connor should take a long, hard look at his track record rather than the (yawn) usual smears. F4J is apparently going great guns and has all it's original members on board. And it's a household name which you can't say for this movement.

Of course the proof of the pudding is in the eating but rather than complaining perhaps people should get up and do something themselves.
Chartwell with reference to your quote re Constantine and OConnor are at least giving it a go.Do you yourself favour an alliance or get together between Constantines FEP and OConnors new rumoured party.?

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I think there is plenty of room in British politics for a pro-England Unionist approach (supported by UKIP) a pro-English Federal approach as espoused by the EDP and a pro-English Independence stance as held by the FEP.


I find the above three options far more interesting then the same old Lib/Lab/Con approach to politics.

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