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Old 11-05-2008, 03:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The Scottish press have all suddenly started slamming Alexander and supporting Salmond (which was unexpected).

Further, on Friday morning, most of them carried headlines about how Salmond supposedly knocked her around at First Ministers Questions. She is absolutely useless and is failing like I predicted when she first came to power.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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There won't be a UK Union left if Gordon Brown and Labour carry on as they are now - their refusal to give England equality (i.e. her own Parliament) will result in opposition to the UK rising further in England.
The probable next lot in, the Tories, wil refuse too. The English are faced with a future of more of the same, either by a continued Labour government or by the Tories.
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The probable next lot in, the Tories, wil refuse too. The English are faced with a future of more of the same, either by a continued Labour government or by the Tories.
I agree, but there are signs that many voters will only vote for Cameron's mob out of desperation and not with enthusiasm!

English nationalist parties must step forward and try to become visible alternatives.

Just look at the way Scots have hogged the debate this week about a referendum on Scotland's independence! No fairness or equity here! Not even wisdom, because two nations voting on the same question doubles the chances of a 'YES'!

Why should England have a say about Scotland's independence? After all, only 85% of the UK's voters are in England, and England will have to make new arrangements for deploying the Armed Forces and Trident etc etc

Why even Michael [now Lord] Forsythe expressed the opinion to Andrew Neil [it had to be another Scot, of course!] on Face-to-Face on the Parliament Channel that there should be a referendum in England on independence, but it wasn't clear whether he meant Scotland's or England's. Neil seemed incredulous, which is probably why he didn't seek clarification.


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The Scottish press have all suddenly started slamming Alexander and supporting Salmond (which was unexpected). Further, on Friday morning, most of them carried headlines about how Salmond supposedly knocked her around at First Ministers Questions.
Mrs. Wendy Alexander, Scottish Labour Party leader, comes across better on television than does europhile Scottish 'National' Party (SNP) leader Salmond.
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The English are faced with a future of more of the same, either by a continued Labour government or by the Tories.
The expectation of political analysts is that the Conservatives - if/when they become the UK Government - will legislate to stop Scottish constituency MPs voting on specifically English matters before the House of Commons.

Labour will maintain the status quo whereby Scottish constituency MPs vote in the Commons for tuition fees in England only and prescription charge rises in England only.
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The expectation of political analysts is that the Conservatives - if/when they become the UK Government - will legislate to stop Scottish constituency MPs voting on specifically English matters before the House of Commons.

Labour will maintain the status quo whereby Scottish constituency MPs vote in the Commons for tuition fees in England only and prescription charge rises in England only.

But NO English parliament. I believe if the Tories win the next GE, expect to see more powers being surrendered to Scotland for the sake of the union, and the fact that the Tories are despised in Scotland.
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I believe if the Tories win the next General Election....
The Conservatives need the biggest electoral swing they have ever achieved in the modern era just to get an overall majority of one at the next General Election - larger than the record swing Lady Thatcher got at the 1979 General Election.
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But NO English Parliament.
Richard: The Conservatives bringing in rules so that only English constituency MPs can vote on English matters before the House of Commons would establish a de-facto English Parliament.

It is not the full English Parliament which you require. But then you are not going to be satisfied with whatever the Conservatives do on this anyway because you want England out of the UK and the Conservatives, being UK Unionists, are not going to offer you that.

The simple fact is that as long as Labour are the UK Government there will be no change to the status quo whereby Scottish constituency MPs can vote through unpopular measures for England - measures (such as increasing prescription charges or tuition fees) which their colleagues in the Scottish Parliament would not implement in Scotland.

The general view is that if/when the Conservatives get back into Government they would not allow Scottish constituency MPs to vote on specifically English matters before the House of Commons.
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