Richard the Lionheart

Free England are developing the concept of cumulative sentencing as one of our policies, and would appreciate input from people, please. Here's how it would work:

An individual is sentenced before a court of law, given one year in prison and is then released. Some time later, that person commits another crime, is brought before a court and found guilty. He is sentenced firstly, to repeat that year over again, and is given another year for his current crimes, therefore serving two years. Sometimea later, he again commits another crime, brought before the courts and found guilty. He is firstly given two years to repeat for his last sentence, and another two years for his latest crimes, thus doing a four year sentence. The next time he is brought before a court he will receive a minimum four year sentence plus punishment for his current crimes.

And so on and so forth.

I would also do away with the parole board and review the criminal justice act, so that the sentences imposed by our courts are served in full, no parole and no automatic reduction in sentences.

Some people might mention the overcrowding in our prisons, but are people aware that 1 in 8 prisoners in England and Wales are foreign nationals? There are systems in place which can be used to ensure the foreign convict will serve his sentence in his home country. This would release 10,000 prison places. In addition, more prisons should be built. We simply cannot have a society that allows persistent offenders to rob, mug or burgle decent law abiding citizens. We cannot allow our streets to remain usafe. We must challenge the criminals that if they continue with their lawless ways, the state will come down hard on them.

Opinions?

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Frith

It's essential to have a zero tolerance policy on violent crime and a sensible approach to those who are not psychopaths or habitual criminals and may be made useful by training in prison.

The most effective method is that of reducing crime by a multi-pronged effect through better policing, a good basic education for all citizens, training facilities with employment to match and a sense of moral responsibility that is well demonstrated in the role model of the family unit and the early learned responsibilities and behaviour inside that unit, panning out to the extended family of the community and nation.

Naturally overpopulation works against this model because it makes more than the system can realistically provide for. Education can be preventive of this and so can a sensible immigration policy, namely no immigration policy, as such, for a country like Britain and the concentration instead on skills training and care for the extant population with a view to reducing the burden on the state, the tax payer and the environment. These views are why I am not a liberal. I believe humans must take their place within the natural system not enthrone themselves on top of it and proceed to treat it like a heap of raw materials that has no end.

Unionist

Richard, I would not go along with your proposals as you have suggested here because I believe that it could spiral out of control. Would an armed robber who serves eight years then do that sentence again if he is caught for shoplifting? If there is no proportionality it can lead to extremes and undermine the concept of justice.

I also think that parole or early release can be beneficial if it is an incentive to good behaviour and not automatic. By making early release too generous, and effectively automatic, it destroys the whole purpose of both the sentencing system and the parole system.

Obviously, where people are released early and then offend again it is right that they should go back and serve the rest of their sentence (since there is a conditionality attached to parole). Again, however, it has to be proportionate.

Maybe you could work these things together to have a proper (non-automatic) policy on parole and the proportionate forfeiture of parole in the case of people offending again.

interceptor470

It would certainly be a good deterant. Not sure about cutting out the parole board, thats a lot of jobs that would go.

Richard the Lionheart

Yes, deterrents are a good idea I think. For example, I said to a friend that drink drivers should face an automatic three month prison sentence, he said it was a bit steep. I said, not if you're not a drink driver, what have you to worry about?

This is a good discussion because it helps work out polices which people think are good, so thanks.

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interceptor470

Its also a good idea for the children they could mow down whilst drink driving. I think its a good idea your zero tolerence policies. Be careful though some of the electorate could see you as being too right wing. This country as been too left wing for some time now and would find it difficult to adapt. It's going to be hard to stay middle of centre if that is your key but you cant please them all.

Richard the Lionheart

I remember reading a story about a young girl that was run over one Christmas by a drunk driver. Yes, some things might seem right wing or OTT, but not for the families of the victims.

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interceptor470

Being a father of two young girls I would bring bang hanging for scum like that

Richard the Lionheart

A couple of weeks ago a young lad was walking through a park near me and was confronted by two other lads who tried to mug him. One of them pulled out a knife and stabbed him. He died. They are now in custody.

Knife crime is a hot topic at the moment. What is the solution to it?

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interceptor470

Anybody that carries a knife should be treated as a potential killer. It should not be classed as an offensive weopon but a tool to potentially commit murder and the punishment should be extream. The same should apply to carrying guns.