Parliamentary by-elections

ukiprule · 06-05-2008, 08:03 PM

when is the deadline to be entered?

Richard the Lionheart · 06-05-2008, 08:40 PM

I think the question is, is the "scattergun" approach, with the hope that something sticks, a better option, or careful targetting?

ukiprule · 06-05-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

I think the question is, is the "scattergun" approach, with the hope that something sticks, a better option, or careful targetting?

Do you know when the dead line is?

Richard the Lionheart · 06-05-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ukiprule

Do you know when the dead line is?

no idea to be honest.

Northumbrian · 06-05-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

Thank you for that, yes you're right, perhaps C&N might be a better bet.

I hear a new party has been formed called 'Beauties for Britain'. Basically the idea is to put up a stunning looking woman, and if elected would make Westminster a prettier place. They plan to stand in Crewe.

I would imagine the EDP wouldn't stand there, as they must be sick of getting beat by any two-bit party that comes along!

ANGLO-STAFFS · 06-05-2008, 10:55 PM

LOOK!!!
You now have your own FEP section. Can we please use it as a positive resource?
It should be seen as one of the bricks that will help to build a FREE England. It is not something to be used to batter the EDP.
PLEASE, either work with the EDP or ignore them but stop all the snide attacks that go on. You will not get many members of the EDP coming over to you if you keep slagging them off while they are EDP. Neither is it the best way to prove to the ‘neutrals’ that the FEP is worthy of their support.
Try to mould the FEP into a believable building organisation, not some cowboy demolition gang.

cassie · 07-05-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

Thanks, I believe Andrew has received a few enquiries in the area.

The plan is to work a ward, then work the county council area, then a constituency, in carefully selected areas. By working the council and county council areas, this can highlight possible good support at relatively cheap cost. If it proves successful, i.e. winning council seats, then it is worth standing in general elections. I don't believe it's worth the limited time and investment of any small party to try and take on elections to Westminster without doing the background work I mentioned. For me, it's a case of throwing good money away for very little return. Yes, I accept the publicity that comes on putting a name on a ballot paper, but it's no good if there aren't the resources to follow it up.

An interesting source of information to study is the local election results to see where support might lay. A good example is the London South West constituency, where between Free England, the NF and the ED's there was a total 5% support. If that support can be harnessed, then there is a likelihood of gaining an elected member. This will only happen if the groundwork is put in. Yes, the NF are a far right party, but I believe that parties like them and the BNP attract the protest vote.

So my view is it's best to work "bottom up" which costs the least in finanical terms, and begins the real task of changing public opinion.

Unfortunately, your line of argument is all too valid Richard!

One of the factors making it less feasible for small parties with fewer resources to capitalise on by-elections is the current Postal Vote system. One has to be more than sharp off the mark to target Postal Voters before they despatch their votes. It's just another of the undemocratic innovations New Labour devised to restrict the scope for action of Independents and others. Indeed, it is arguable that O'Connor's vote would have been even less without the Postal Votes that had already been cast before his betrayal!

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kiwi ukipper · 07-05-2008, 01:12 AM

My advice would be to make a deal with the EDs - take one each (C&N and Henley). Even let them choose if that's what it takes. It would be silly to have both parties contesting one or both seats.

Frith · 07-05-2008, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS

LOOK!!!
You now have your own FEP section. Can we please use it as a positive resource?
It should be seen as one of the bricks that will help to build a FREE England. It is not something to be used to batter the EDP.
PLEASE, either work with the EDP or ignore them but stop all the snide attacks that go on. You will not get many members of the EDP coming over to you if you keep slagging them off while they are EDP. Neither is it the best way to prove to the ‘neutrals’ that the FEP is worthy of their support.
Try to mould the FEP into a believable building organisation, not some cowboy demolition gang.

If you look closely you'll see that most attacks don't emanate from the FEP and any resulting antagonism is defensive.

You're dead right about ignoring it, though. The way to accomplish this is to start by limiting cross border raids. The atmosphere of debate and positive suggestions will inevitably encourage people to pop in for a cuppa, maybe return and hopfully stay.

Richard the Lionheart · 07-05-2008, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cassie

Unfortunately, your line of argument is all too valid Richard!

One of the factors making it less feasible for small parties with fewer resources to capitalise on by-elections is the current Postal Vote system. One has to be more than sharp off the mark to target Postal Voters before they despatch their votes. It's just another of the undemocratic innovations New Labour devised to restrict the scope for action of Independents and others. Indeed, it is arguable that O'Connor's vote would have been even less without the Postal Votes that had already been cast before his betrayal!

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Which is what I did. I delivered all our leaflets before the postal votes came out, and that will allways be my strategy if possible.

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Richard the Lionheart Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 497 Party: Free England Party	I think the question is, is the "scattergun" approach, with the hope that something sticks, a better option, or careful targetting? __________________ The Free England Party - England's Premier Nationalist Party www.freeengland.com .....Serious about England

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kiwi ukipper Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 49	My advice would be to make a deal with the EDs - take one each (C&N and Henley). Even let them choose if that's what it takes. It would be silly to have both parties contesting one or both seats. __________________ "The socialist goal of equality can only be achieved when we all have nothing" Former ACT Party leader, Hon Richard Prebble.

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ukiprule Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 290 Party: UKIP	when is the deadline to be entered?

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ANGLO-STAFFS Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 479	LOOK!!! You now have your own FEP section. Can we please use it as a positive resource? It should be seen as one of the bricks that will help to build a FREE England. It is not something to be used to batter the EDP. PLEASE, either work with the EDP or ignore them but stop all the snide attacks that go on. You will not get many members of the EDP coming over to you if you keep slagging them off while they are EDP. Neither is it the best way to prove to the ‘neutrals’ that the FEP is worthy of their support. Try to mould the FEP into a believable building organisation, not some cowboy demolition gang.