The Free England Party will fight the 2009 Euro elections

Frith · 11-05-2008, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Populist Lee

Why don't you put him on "ignore"?

I don't like putting folk on "ignore". I prefer to know mine enemy and meet him face to face than think he may be sniggering behind my back. I don't have anyone on ignore except god. I've been ignoring him since I was four.

Andrew Constantine · 11-05-2008, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Populist Lee

It's all very well asking what you have asked above.

You haven't mentioned to your people here that to contest each Euro Region you need to place a deposit of £5,000.

They'll have to dig deeply into their pockets.

Populist Lee - -
The Populist Leader.

Thanks Populist Lee.

It is a lot of money, but these elections are too important (and tempting) to ignore. With Labour in meltdown, UKIP trying to revive the Empire and the EDs turning nasty, there is a room for a rational and acceptable anti-EU English nationalist party to win a seat.

Do you wish to work with us? Regards, Andrew

ukiprule · 11-05-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine

Thanks Populist Lee.

It is a lot of money, but these elections are too important (and tempting) to ignore. With Labour in meltdown, UKIP trying to revive the Empire and the EDs turning nasty, there is a room for a rational and acceptable anti-EU English nationalist party to win a seat.

Do you wish to work with us? Regards, Andrew

I think you should wait or just stand in one region

Andrew Constantine · 11-05-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ukiprule

I think you should wait or just stand in one region

Thank you for the above, but which region - or regions - would be best for our anti-EU and decent (but still new) English nationalist party?

I would welcome any helpful thoughts or contributions, especially as I believe that none of our members have stood in the EU elections before.

Many thanks

Andrew

Northumbrian · 11-05-2008, 10:44 AM

My own thought is that this would be an election too soon. The EDP stood in 2004 before they'd really started fighting local elections. It was very expensive and they don't seem to have recovered from that.

Would it not be better to target the general election? There will be one, possibly two before the European elections in 2014.

rjt · 11-05-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

So, you're in favour of removing choice from voters with party fixes?

This approach is unprincipled, sheer expediency, and should be seen as such. It is frequently advocated by those who are not members of any political party.

No wonder more and more voters become disillusioned and refuse to participate in such fiascos!

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What is clear cassie is whilst you may disagree with what I am saying the anti EU movement faces decades more in the wilderness unless there is some for of political realignment in this country.

I doubt many people on the forum really expect anything other than the 3 main Pro EU partys to still occupy 1st, 2nd and 3rd place in the HOC after the next election. This in my view will remain the case until the anti EU movement gets its act topgether and starts co-operating in the national intrest.

Britannist · 11-05-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rjt

....the anti-EU movement faces decades more in the wilderness unless there is some for of political realignment in this country.

One possible political realignment would be for the Conservatives, the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP), the Ulster Unionist Party (UUP), UKIP, the English Democrats (ED), the Free England Party (FEP), Veritas and One London to form one big pro-sovereignty alliance of parties which supports membership of EFTA instead of the EU and which backs fairness for England within the UK Union (i.e. an English Parliament to match the powers of the one in Scotland).

However, in view of the fact that David Cameron has insulted UKIP and that europhiles are still in the Conservative Party (some holding important positions in the Shadow Cabinet) such a realignment involving UKIP would not be possible yet.

The Conservatives, if they started doing what a Conservative Party should do - which is oppose the EU threat to our sovereignty and self-government - could gain over a million extra votes in such an alliance (i.e. the votes of the small parties named above) at a General Election (and probably several million more as anti-EU Conservatives who have abstained in recent General Elections 'returned to the fold').

No such political realignment - one which could almost certainly defeat Labour in a General Election - will be formed until the Conservatives remove all europhiles in their ranks.

cassie · 11-05-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rjt

What is clear cassie is whilst you may disagree with what I am saying the anti EU movement faces decades more in the wilderness unless there is some for of political realignment in this country.

I doubt many people on the forum really expect anything other than the 3 main Pro EU parties to still occupy 1st, 2nd and 3rd place in the HOC after the next election. This in my view will remain the case until the anti EU movement gets its act together and starts co-operating in the national interest.

What is clear rjt is that you are only able to engage in superficial debate on the basis of shifting ground and stating banal generalities!

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rjt · 11-05-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

One possible political realignment would be for the Conservatives, the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP), the Ulster Unionist Party (UUP), UKIP, the English Democrats (ED), the Free England Party (FEP), Veritas and One London to form one big pro-sovereignty alliance of parties which supports membership of EFTA instead of the EU and which backs fairness for England within the UK Union (i.e. an English Parliament to match the powers of the one in Scotland).

However, in view of the fact that David Cameron has insulted UKIP and that europhiles are still in the Conservative Party (some holding important positions in the Shadow Cabinet) such a realignment involving UKIP would not be possible yet.

The Conservatives, if they started doing what a Conservative Party should do - which is oppose the EU threat to our sovereignty and self-government - could gain over a million extra votes in such an alliance (i.e. the votes of the small parties named above) at a General Election (and probably several million more as anti-EU Conservatives who have abstained in recent General Elections 'returned to the fold').

No such political realignment - one which could almost certainly defeat Labour in a General Election - will be formed until the Conservatives remove all europhiles in their ranks.

Yes I agree wholeheartedly with that.

rjt · 11-05-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

What is clear rjt is that you are only able to engage in superficial debate on the basis of shifting ground and stating banal generalities!

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What is clear is the scenario I have painted, if you have clear evidence to the contary by all means share it, if you have some access to private polling or are in on some huge secret plan which involves someone like Nigel farage or Robin Tilbrook being asked to form a governement in either of our lifetimes then please share.

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11-05-2008, 10:44 AM	#75 (permalink)
Northumbrian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England Posts: 1,052	My own thought is that this would be an election too soon. The EDP stood in 2004 before they'd really started fighting local elections. It was very expensive and they don't seem to have recovered from that. Would it not be better to target the general election? There will be one, possibly two before the European elections in 2014.