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Old 06-05-2008, 10:05 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Thank you for restating your position.

Political partys co-operate all the time Cassie, there is no reason why UKIP and the ED or UKIP and Liberal or Conservative and UUP cannot co-operate desipte diffrences in some areas of policy if they can see a need to do which would benefit a particular casue. An anit EU alliance would be no bad thing which is why there could be a need for co-operation in this case.

You've 'begged the question' rjt - to use a well worn but apt expression! How many times does one have to go around the buouy?


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Old 06-05-2008, 10:08 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Thank you Frith, the day Cassie starts agreeing with me on a regular basis will be the day I know I am not dealing in Realism anymore.
Funny! I think the reverse: the day you start agreeing with me on a regular basis is the day you start dealing in realism!

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Old 06-05-2008, 10:10 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Someone who wants to argue with everyone?
Funny, I thought that was you!

You should try to distinguish between debate and disagreement.


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Old 06-05-2008, 05:40 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Funny! I think the reverse: the day you start agreeing with me on a regular basis is the day you start dealing in realism!

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I cannot tell you how pleased I am that you do think the reverse. In the meantime back in the real world minor partys are gearing up to fight a general election in the next two years and they will not just be fighting to win seats, they will be fighting against an establishment that hates them, an electoral system biased against them and the anti Eu movement is as fractured and divided as ever. You may dream of some utopian ideal where England got a vote regarding Socts and Welsh Devolution etc but in the real world nothing will change until minor partys start getting seats under FPP at General Elections, that is the real world. There will be no English Parlaiment until a crediable force supporting such a concept starts to win seats when it really matters.

In the meanwhile you will no doubt carry on playing mr angry, a part you play with the finesse of Brian Blessed.
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I cannot tell you how pleased I am that you do think the reverse. In the meantime back in the real world minor partys are gearing up to fight a general election in the next two years and they will not just be fighting to win seats, they will be fighting against an establishment that hates them, an electoral system biased against them and the anti Eu movement is as fractured and divided as ever. You may dream of some utopian ideal where England got a vote regarding Socts and Welsh Devolution etc but in the real world nothing will change until minor partys start getting seats under FPP at General Elections, that is the real world. There will be no English Parlaiment until a crediable force supporting such a concept starts to win seats when it really matters.

In the meanwhile you will no doubt carry on playing mr angry, a part you play with the finesse of Brian Blessed.


. . . and you need to learn how to spell in English!




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Well you won't be the first to misread or misrepresent what I said.

I asked: "Just what is the point of having . . . separate political parties, if you are then going to want some kind of political party alliance?" [I've edited it because it seems you are unable to understand compound sentences.]


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All over the world, including the UK, political parties come together to form alliances. They are often called coalitions. They are formed by two or more parties to serve a common purpose. They run their course and are dissolved.
That does not seem too difficult a concept surely Cassie.
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Now that the Free England Party has shown its appetite for fighting elections, our main focus will now turn to the next Euro Elections in June 2009.

I would like to see our candidate selection for the "horrible EU regions" taking place this summer and the various campaigns by our MEP candidates start to roll this September.

Would all those interested in helping in any way whatsoever, including as potential candidates, please contact Richard the Lionheart (or other members of the Free England Party NEC).

Our activists and other members will of course have priority at the selection of our candidates and the party's general support at these elections.

There is a great deal of work of all sorts to be undertaken at varying times between this summer and the actual elections in June, so please do volunteer - and your offers to help will be accepted fully on the basis that it is your call about your time availability and how you wish to assist in any event.

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That will be interesting seeing how the FEP do against the ED's in next years Euro elections. Any predictions on which party will get the nearest to one per cent!
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It will probably be nearer to 1% than you lot, that's if you stand.
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So my spelling is not very good, what has that got to do with anything? Do you normally make fun of people who for perfectly legitimate reasons have difficultys with such things. I am certainly glad that you do not have and with your attitude are unlikely ever to have a position of political significance which would involve you taking decisions that had direct influence over my life.
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All over the world, including the UK, political parties come together to form alliances. They are often called coalitions. They are formed by two or more parties to serve a common purpose. They run their course and are dissolved.
That does not seem too difficult a concept surely Cassie.
Of course they do, had there for example been a public vote on the recent EU treaty you would have found cross party coalitions springing up on all sides. Our political history is full of them and will continue to be so. Rightly so as well because when there is a shared intrest it is pointless people who differ on other issues just snipping at each other, better to get on and work together when you can do so.
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