Thread: FEP shut down the youth wing

I agree with not having a political party youth section because I personally feel that school going youngsters shouldn't be politicised. When people turn eighteen, are able to vote, work, fight for their country, have families, etc then they should join the main party and become active. Because they are old enough to vote they can go out and canvass and maybe stand for election although I feel no very young person should really do this.

There is something essentially fascist about political youth movements. I'm not saying this lightly as I lived in a nationalist country where the youth were politicised. It didn't do them any good and caused them to miss out on that time in life when every individual just needs space to grow and learn. Maybe this is very Scandinavian of me as we tend to believe that young people need these things and there's no mad hurry to foist certain things on them before they are ready or to indoctrinate them with ideology they may wish to take up or leave or return to over a period of time.

All this going to political youth camps and what not that tends to go with these things gives me the creeps. A while ago young people joined the scouts and guides and church guild groups and various other youth groups rather than become enmeshed in politics. There is often a lot of good sense in traditional models.

Just my opinion. Youth today are too pressurised into various orientations by crafty adults who are looking for recruits they can mould.

Originally Posted by Cythraul

I was referring mostly to the EDP and rhetorically with regard to the FEP. The only reason I can see why an English National party would choose to be all-inclusive is to deter the PC 'anti-fascist' Brigade from bothering them. Had political correctness and the dogma of all-inclusive multiculturalism never reared its ugly head no nationalist party would even consider the notion of accepting people of any ethnic background as sharing in their identity. Nationhood used to be based on shared-ethnicity as much as shared-values and culture and no-one would've thought to question this. Civic-nationalists only feel obliged to share their identity with all because of the extent to which multiculturalism has been forced.

Agree. The whole point of "diversity" is that it conforms to its definition and doesn't mean something else. The new age world order would like everyone to relinquish culture, as such, so that loyalty to new globalised structures of universal welfare can replace old world identities and identification. It's evil because it is indoctrinated by a mixture of media and educational propaganda and the fostering of a sense of guilt that has grown to encompass an inexplicable drive to buy the world a coke, even if the world doesn't drink coke, doesn't like coke, would prefer something else. Gotta have a coke or you'll be shunned and called a bigot.

Thats dead right Cythraul, I agree. I think that if you read between the lines on what the FEP are saying you can see they mean business on this ethnic English stance, good for them I say. People are supposed to be taking notice of them and some have possibly joined as well.

Very interesting, the FEP Party leader closes down the one section that is going to oppose his proposals and tells anyone who disagrees to bog off - Stalin and the Fuhrer would be proud of you, mate!! Christ, not even Tony Blair was that much of a control freak - well, maybe he was.

Just out of interest, in a democratic party aren't you supposed to have debate over policy, especially one that is being changed AFTER you have joined it? And, aren't decisions about expelling members, closing down sections etc supposed to be debated within the boundaries of the Constitution of any party, by its ruling body for instance, and minuted for the record? Just a few points but if you are supposed to be a serious public organisation operating within the law then you need to at least try and look professional! Instead of which this all looks like a spat at a bowls club committee..

eric you should be asking the FEP these things. The fep threads show that as soon as the proposal was mentioned on their forum site there was a split instead of a debate taking place. One poster was stirring the pot with those youngsters for certain on there.
My interest is now on the fep because the change they propose is in the interest of the English Nation and thats fact. How can people be against such interest being shown in their country? Of course non English on this site and others may try to pretend they English so they can attack them I suppose.

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

eric you should be asking the FEP these things. The fep threads show that as soon as the proposal was mentioned on their forum site there was a split instead of a debate taking place. One poster was stirring the pot with those youngsters for certain on there.
My interest is now on the fep because the change they propose is in the interest of the English Nation and thats fact. How can people be against such interest being shown in their country? Of course non English on this site and others may try to pretend they English so they can attack them I suppose.

Well as this is the FEP section I was asking the FEP this, duh.. It was a proposal, some people oppose it, HELLO we live in a democracy thats what we fought wars for, you know, so that people can disagree. A proposal can then be debated and the majority will vote one way and the rest will accede to that result. If they then oppose the thing, thats when they're being disruptive. Jesus, don't they teach people the basics of modern politics anymore?

Originally Posted by Silfur Falki

By God I'm glad you didn't join as well.

Join us? You are not even a member yourself, nor live in this country for that matter.

Originally Posted by Eureka

Has the AGM already happened then? It would be very odd to kick out people and close down the youth wing on the basis of a proposal that has not yet been agreed.

If the AGM has not already taken place, the vote there is clearly irrelevant. The decision has already been made.

Yes, very democratic isn't it. They (the leadership) have pushed their agenda onto the membership and when elements of that membership complained they shut down the youth wing & withdraw student membership. All this is to stop the descent.

Where is the democratic debate. I have watched it take place on the FEP forum and it stinks frankly.

....and bannning anyone who doesn't agree.