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			<title>MONSANTO crops destroyed</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 09:52:39 GMT</pubDate>
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			Hungary has taken a bold stand against biotech <a href="http://naturalsociety.com/blind-health-forbes-magazine-declares-monsanto-company-of-the-year/" target="_blank">giant Monsanto</a> and genetic modification by destroying 1000 acres of maize found to have been grown with genetically modified seeds, according to Hungary deputy state secretary of the Ministry of Rural Development Lajos Bognar. Unlike many European Union countries, Hungary is a nation where genetically modified (GM) seeds are banned. In a similar stance against GM ingredients, Peru has also passed a <a href="http://naturalsociety.com/peru-passes-monumental-ten-year-ban-on-genetically-modified-foods/" target="_blank">10 year ban</a> on GM foods.
			
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			<font color="#000000"><span style="font-family: Arial">Almost 1000 acres of maize found to have been ground with genetically modified seeds have been destroyed throughout Hungary, deputy state secretary of the Ministry of Rural Development Lajos Bognar said. The GMO maize has been ploughed under, said Lajos Bognar, but pollen has not spread from the maize, he added.</span></font><br />
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			<dc:creator>Sharon Ebanks</dc:creator>
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			<title>Yet another new super batterie</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 14:05:32 GMT</pubDate>
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<font color="#0000cd">Liquid metal batterie capable of large scale power storage.<br />
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Although he's a bit of a show off and slow (why hasn't it got to market yet then?) worth a watch. Will it happen?</font></div>

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			<dc:creator>Tim the plumber</dc:creator>
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			<title>Shale Gas Production Info</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 06:22:10 GMT</pubDate>
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			DURHAM, N.C. -- A new  study by scientists at Duke University and the U.S. Geological Survey  (USGS) finds no evidence of groundwater contamination from shale gas  production in Arkansas.
			
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			<dc:creator>manbearpig</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[News Article on " Why the UK needs US LNG "]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 05:43:19 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I guess its because of the rising gas demand in UK :confused: 
 
 
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			<font color="#333333"><span style="font-family: arial">The US is on the cusp of exporting LNG abroad and British utility Centrica hasn’t wasted any time in locking down supplies for the UK. But why is the US such an attractive market for natural gas buyers and what does the UK power industry stand to benefit from this new source of imports?</span></font>
			
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			<title>New Energy Source - Backpeddling like mad</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 05:35:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Tim, you have been vindicated .. 
 
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Max Sea Level rise this century = 2' 3&quot; ..<br />
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			OSLO, May 14 (Reuters) - A melt of ice on Greenland and Antarctica is likely to be less severe than expected this century, limiting sea level rise to a maximum of 69 cm (27 inches), an international study said on Tuesday.
			
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			The ice2sea study also said that a survey of experts' opinions showed there was a less than one-in-20 risk that melting ice sheets would contribute more than 84 cm to sea level rise this century. Taken with thermal expansion, that would mean a sea level gain of just over a metre, Vaughan said.
			
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From the 'Science is Settled' department.<br />
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Now it is a Quadrupling of CO<sub>2</sub> that is to be considered 'scary' doubling is not so scary any more ... what will it be next, I wonder ? 8x ... 16x ? I wonder if the team will ever make  their mind up on this settled science stuff :lol: :lol: :lol:<br />
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			. CO2 lags temperature, history has proven. Moreover, although CO2 has  risen tremendously (in relative terms) over the last 15 years, the  global temperature has not. For the last 15 years, sensitivity has been  zero. Worse, there’s strong, mounting evidence that there isn’t going to  be any warming for another 10 or 20 years at least.
			
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			<title>What is in our milk?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 10:29:09 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>It would be interesting if its this ingredient... 
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			<title>Aaarrgghh UK supermkts push for GMO fed meat</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 20:34:23 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Traitorous supermarkets push for GMO fed meat: 
 
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			<dc:creator>BCG Jason</dc:creator>
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			<title>Article on the Effects of Global Warming Scares</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 06:17:21 GMT</pubDate>
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			  Britons are being killed by global warming policies, not  global warming itself.  Fraser Nelson in <i>The Telegraph</i> on green schemes to make heating too expensive: <br />
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  <i> No one seems upset that in modern Britain, <a href="http://climaterealists.com/?id=11411" target="_blank">old people are freezing to death as hidden taxes make fuel more expensive</a>…</i>
			
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			<i> The average annual fuel bill is expected to have risen by £76 by  2020, it says. But take out Davey’s hidden taxes (carbon price floor,  emissions trading scheme, etc) and we’d be paying an average £123 less. </i>
			
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			<title>Another nail in the coffin of AGW.</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 20:52:25 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>CO2 at 400 PPM But no temperature rise for how long ?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 08:34:41 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Can someone remind me how global warming works again -  
 
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I thought it was this ..<br />
We add CO<sub>2</sub> to atmosphere ... It works like some kind of blanket and we get warmer and warmer until we end up like Venus or something like that.<br />
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Now CO<sub>2</sub> are at 'record' levels and it 'aint got 'significantly' warmer for over 15 years.<br />
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UAH Satellite record shows +0.1 degC ... I think that would be within normal variation ... and no discernible trend.<br />
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Even Phil Jones said this ... <b>15 years without warming would make him 'worried'<br />
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Met office David rose said <b>Global Warming stopped 16 years ago</b> (2012)<br />
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So what is the significance of the 400 ppm ? How much of it is attributable to Man ?<br />
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Most of the climate models have failed (I didn't say all because I don't know if I have seen the results from all of them)</div>

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			<title>Morbid, but interesting</title>
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			<title>News Major breakthrough in fuel cells</title>
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			<description>Aluminium fuel cell built by former submarine Nuclear Engineer should halve cost per mile in running a car or other motor: 
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			<title>Now we are headed for an Ice Age!!</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 08:05:06 GMT</pubDate>
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I know, it's the Mail (which is paywall free). As a layman, my mind is spinning. I of course believe every news story I read and what the government and various agencies, scientists tell me, so these diametrically opposed views just confuse me! One day we are heading for a 2ºc planetary increase in temperatures, ice free poles and rising sea levels, starvation and everything else bad. Then the next day we are being hit by a Maunder Minimum, where no doubt we will all be skating on the Thames.<br />
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Where is Clippo? He used to say that there was a consensus. All there seems to be is uncertainty and various scientists pushing out their own thoughts on the subject.<br />
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			<title>News Fridges could be switched off without consent to reduce strain on power stations</title>
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White goods such as electric ovens would be affected by the proposals to fit all new appliances with sensors that could shut them down when the UK's generators struggle to meet demand for power. <br />
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 The measures proposed by the UK’s National Grid, along with its counterparts in 34 European countries, to install the controversial devices are backed by one of the European Union's most influential energy bodies. <br />
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 They are pushing for the move because green energy sources such as wind farms are less predictable than traditional power stations, increasing the risk of blackouts <br />
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 The proposals are outlined in documents drawn up by the European Network of Transmission System Operators for Electricity (ENTSO-E), and has been agreed by the EU-wide body of energy regulators. <br />
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 The proposals were sent to the European Commission on March 27, and it is set to deliver its verdict on the proposals within three months, the Mail on Sunday reported.<br />
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Continues: <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/10023508/Fridges-could-be-switched-off-without-owners-consent-to-reduce-strain-on-power-stations.html" target="_blank">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ene...-stations.html</a>
			
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</div>Wow! This comment on the article basically summed up my feelings:<br />
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			Another sign that our infrastructure is struggling to meet the demands an additional three million people create. Not enough homes, not enough schools and not enough power...but still the doors are open ready to welcome more.
			
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