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    Could someone explain another reasonable explanation.
    If you decided to concentrate on bringing in gm foods, which would effectively mean that you supplied the grain and the insecticides, and nothing would be grown or produced without your permission, would this not be a new type of warfare.
    Would you have then in your possession the decision of whether people ate or famished?
    Forget about anything else that matters, if food is controlled and the type of food that you are given, then would this be the ultimate control.
    Would this feed the world or would this create famine?
    At what cost is freedom, so many things could create a better world, are we reduced to working towards destroying for profit.
    I need an explanation, as to why we are moving forward in this direction, when we could be changing direction and making a better world for everyone.

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    CM crops are sold as a panacea to rid the world of starvation and disease. That, in itself, is howling out snake oil.

    Besides, if they were to be used to avert world hunger, why are they wanting to make people in the first world eat them when it is clear many do not. Not even giving a choice by labelling, the companies do not want these products to be labelled. Hardly the actions of a company that is producing a product which is benign.

    Moreover, should we produce GM food which does feed twice as many people as there are today, what then happens when that number doubles, then doubles again? Is it responsible to encourage a population to reach a level to which the only way the population can stay alive is be being dependent on scientists and not farmers for producing the food. Then what happens when GM crops are not enough to sustain the world's population?

    If the population gets to that level and for one reason or another the food supplies stop the result won't be very pleasant and the population may well drop to such levels that recovery as a species will not be possible.

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    The reason why we, or some of us, are moving towards GM foods (Lorraine) is that it is found financially profitable. That's the way unbridled capitalism always works; and that's why all activities of importance to mankind as a whole should be internationally regulated. JR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacques Roman View Post
    The reason why we, or some of us, are moving towards GM foods (Lorraine) is that it is found financially profitable. That's the way unbridled capitalism always works; and that's why all activities of importance to mankind as a whole should be internationally regulated. JR
    So who regulates the "international regulators" then ... the guy with the white cat ?

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    The UN is gradually becoming more involved in internal politics, as with the Sec gen. giving directions to Egypt now. Customs which are accepted can develop into common law and become enforceable. As it weakens, the US may want to see more power in the UN, as long as US controls the cash.

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    If a food war in on the way, then would the countries growing organic seeds, (not sure what you call ordinary seeds that reproduce), other than gm seeds, will those countries reap the benefits, I personally think they will, and it looks as though we are going down the line of gm food stuffs.
    I have always thought of the US as a pinacle, until I found out about GM food stuffs, quite alot of people now understand about GM crops etc; could it be once people realise the difference they will all want organic food, that will cause the food war. Countries are now saying no, countries that go forward towards GM may be paving their way to bankruptcy, I can only see the Countries that are banning GM reaping the benefits, that is where the food will become high in demand, the GM food may become untouchable.
    What this could be creating is a holocaust without even realising it, because the profit has blurred the vision to the future.
    Seems strange to me that so many people are becoming ill at young ages with that affected the bee population and the rat population when tests where carried out on gm crops and potatoes, and the scientist that carried out the potato crops and lost his job.
    Honesty in a government will make that government hold true to the people, we can all go through bad times together, but honesty prevails.
    At least if we are made to go down the road of GM let's have the choice, label it so it looks and tastes like that best food in the world, but label it so we can decide.

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    Is the world short of growing food? The transition of the best land in certain countries from growing staples to cash crops has caused certain problems. Staples then need to be imported using up valuable foreign cash reserves, while the money from cash crops largely leaves the locale. In the past couple or three decades, what food is available at any time of the year has greatly changed.

    Ethiopia - Some 12 million people are dependent on Ethiopia’s coffee industry, managed by the Ethiopian Coffee Export Enterprise – ECEE – formerly the Ethiopian Coffee Marketing Corporation. An independent, profit-making organization, ECEE trades on the open market and controls about 50 per cent of the market following liberalization. (Ethiopian Coffee). When their people were starving, did coffee exports fall off?

    It doesn't help when the dictators take these cash crops, as any money that might have trickled down, doesn't. (Who stole 10,000 tons of Ethiopian coffee? | Ethiopia)

    Another interesting article The economics of smallholder coffee ... - Google Books

    I am not sure of the economics of what the best balance between cash crops and food for domestic use is. It seems that Ethiopia spending billions importing food seems to be somewhat a bad use of resources.

    Ethiopia Food, Beverages Import Bill Growing | Ethiopiaforums.com
    BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Ethiopians 'rely on food imports'

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    genetically modified food will cause a global humanitarian disaster « EarthBlog News©

    They say it will stop famine, what happens if these people fall ill, the countries are poor, will their suffering be greater because of gm crops?

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    Labels are the key here. Consumers should have the right to know what they are buying.

    I don't want to spend my money on GM produce. I don't care if it is safe. I don't want to consume it. I should have that right without having to explain and/or justify my choices to anyone.

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    LE, I agree with your post 100%!
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