Reply With QuoteThe Tories are not the best on offer. There are loads of better offers.Originally Posted by Millennium3
One day people will wake up to that fact.
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I am not saying that eurosceptics should support the Tories as a party - just vote for them at the GE - as the best choice on offer.
Spending too much time on this site can get you to believe that the pathetic eurosceptic parties currently parading here are of any consequence. If that changed then different judgements might be made.
These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Thomas Paine, The Crisis
The Tories are not the best on offer. There are loads of better offers.
One day people will wake up to that fact.
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It has to happen soon - after 5 years the LT provides for majority voting - it won't take long thereafter before it is 'fait accompli' - nothing on the horizon seems to support you view.
These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Thomas Paine, The Crisis
The sky is always falling.
Only it isn't. We can always get out of ****, if we realise we are in ****.
The end isn't nigh. There is nothing we can't undo. Nothing will be set in stone.
We will get what we can be bothered to fight for. Meek surrender, will achieve meek surrender like results. That may well be our current and near future, but one day all the old surrender monkies will die out and a new generation will want better for them and their kids.
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Probably be an act of treason to suggest leaving the EU in 10 years.
If it is not done now - it will be much harder later on.
These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Thomas Paine, The Crisis
Well I'll be in prison or worse then.
I'll cross that bride when I get to it. Until then I will continue fighting the EU and voting for partys that want us out.
Meek surrender was never my thang.
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I think my signature is the best response to that!
These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Thomas Paine, The Crisis
You may think there is no possibility of freedom, but I disagree. You play whatever funny little games you want to try and achieve whatever you are trying to achieve. I'm sticking with route 1, blunt honesty.
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I am not playing any games - I genuinely believe that eurosceptics should vote Tory at the next GE as the best thing currently on offer.
I seriously hope that a eurosceptic party will emerge that can make a difference - it's just that there is no sign of one at the moment - eurosceptics seem to enjoy fighting each other rather than finding common ground.
These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Thomas Paine, The Crisis
Here, I have some pets for you.
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