yaro

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gremlin in the works

How can the treaty be ratified by parliment and the Lords if it does not exist.To exist it had to be ratified by all 27 states and Ireland refused.Browns acting outside the law!!!

yaro

I think they will try to bypass that, either by forcing Ireland out of EU (and then probably rejoining), or Ireland will have to hold another referendum. It doesn't seem they will give up easily.

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IceDragon

Lesson from Mugabe, let the voters have a say, completely ignore them.

Northumbrian

They'll be rewording referenda shortly.

'Do you agree with the following EU treaty?

Answer 'Yes' or 'Yes'.'

david H

This is from the PC Journal

Arrogant Brown continues as Arrogant EU ignores Irish NO vote by IanPP on Mon 16 Jun 2008 15:02 BST | Permanent Link | Cosmos Gordon Brown said this morning that Britain would continue the process of ratifying a key EU reform treaty despite Ireland's rejection of it in a referendum.
"The legal position on the European treaty is very clear, that all 27 members must sign and therefore ratify the treaty before it comes into force," Brown said.
"It is for each member to decide its own process for doing so and we will continue of process of debating this in the House of Lords and then (it will have) royal assent."
No Mr Brown, the legal position is that if any of the 27 members reject the Treaty, IT IS DEAD. He is also assuming that Royal Assent will be automatic, but we hope that the Queen has other ideas, although we cannot bank on that.
The arrogance with which the people of Europe are dismissed as irrelevant by this ruling elite beggars belief.
This quotation from the European Weekly, an official EU publication is stunning in its contempt for the citizens of Europe.
The security, liberty and prosperity of hundreds of millions of
European citizens ask for complex leadership actions, which
cannot be appreciated by heterogeneous populations, from the
point of view of the information level and the education one.
They think we are stupid, they assume that we cannot read such treaties and understand what they are doing, and further assume that because most politicians across Europe do not bother to read them, the populous should not bother either, we should leave it all up to the unelected ex communists and Maoists in Brussels. (Yes, did you realise that Barosso was a Maoist).
This arrogance will not be tolerated.
European Weekly goes on with its options following the NO vote in Ireland, none of which follows their own protocols or rules which says if any of the member states does not ratify then its a dead treaty. Like Robert Mugabe, the EU leadership demands a second vote when the first is not to its satisfaction.
What part of NO do these people not understand !!
Brown said that there should now be a "period of reflection" for Ireland to assess how it proceeds with the treaty following the clear victory for the "no" vote in Thursday's referendum.
NO Mr Brown, it is not for Ireland to reflect how it is to proceed, Ireland has already made its decision, it is now for you to reflect how the UK is to proceed and how you include the people of the UK, and it is for the EU to reflect on the fact that the people of Ireland have said NO and the Treaty is legally dead. Again, what part of NO do you not understand. How dare you assume that the people of Ireland have got it wrong.
This evil empire continues as though nothing has happened, with the French planning a Euro Navy using UK assets, proposing a European Union "carrier group" and joint fleet of military transports in a bid to boost the EU military.
Reuters reports that Nicolas Sarkozy sees more muscular EU armed forces as a condition for France's return to NATO. France takes over the EU's rotating Presidency in July and Sarko, with stubbornly low approval ratings at home, is hoping flashing initiatives will help France take a grip of the EU's destiny.
"Ownership" of the EU was once viewed as France's birthright, but expansion eastwards and economic decline have shifted the centre of gravity away from Paris; perhaps Sarkozy will take advantage of the post-Irish vote disarray in order to propose new directions for the EU.
These leaders must understand, the people do not want any further integration, wonderfully summed up by Dan Hannan MEP:
"They really don’t get it, these Eurocrats. I’ve just watched Margot Wallström, the Commission Vice-President, trying to explain away the results. It was important, she said, to work out what the Irish people had really been voting against.
"Let me help you there, Margot. My guess is that they were voting against the Lisbon Treaty. The giveaway was the ballot paper, which asked whether people agreed to amend the Irish constitution so as to, you know, approve the Lisbon Treaty (...)
"But how much longer can Euro-Commissioners keep pretending that people have misunderstood the question? When the French voted “No”, it was argued that they were really voting against Chirac. When the Dutch voted “No”, it was claimed that they were really voting against Turkish accession. Do try and get it through your skulls, chaps, that people are voting against the proposition actually before them. They’ve had enough of “ever-closer union”. They’ve had enough of directives and regulations. They’ve had enough of being pushed around.
"And – I’m sorry to have to say this, Margot – they’ve had enough of you. They’ve had enough of the EU’s politburo, with its lies and its arrogance, its corrupt expenses system, its disdain for democracy, its contempt for its own rules."
The Liberty Bell is ringing, politicians will ignore it at their peril.
There is no left or right in UK politics any more. This battle is about one thing, Authoritarianism versus Liberty.