"British tourists told to put EU stickers on the back of their Passports"

mkpdavies · 12-05-2008, 01:11 PM

I have never been aksed to remove the cover from my passport.

Or asked why my passport got damaged on the front as to obliterate the words European Union.

Westcountryman · 12-05-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Or asked why my passport got damaged on the front as to obliterate the words European Union.

You want to be careful with that, I know of a UKIP member in Cornwall who was prosecuted for doing exactly the same thing.

The Bear · 12-05-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea of Dune

Why wasn't I surprised you would say that...

You don't need a sticker to do that though do you, I'm pretty sure the diplomats and foreign service of other EU countries are aware of who is in the EU, especially as our passports already say EUSSR on the cover..

Local police and military don't know this and so having it spelled out can only help.

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Originally Posted by Ea of Dune

Your comment with regards to other EU embassy officials compared to our own is un-quantafiable to be honest! I doubt very much you have been round the world comparing the services in remote regions of each EU country compared to our own.
Even if you had this would mean little as you would be only one case, which would hardly be enough to be considered a fair test.

Ea of dune

In fact I've spent much of the last 40 years working outside of Britain, and from time to time in some pretty far flung parts of the world at that.

Thankfully those days are in the past. It soon stops being fun.

On the occasions when I've had cause to call on our overseas embassies, especially in the last 20 years, I've found them to be staffed by an incompetent shower of time serving chinless wonders who didn't give much of a stuff for anything that interrupted their cushy life.

mkpdavies · 12-05-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

You want to be careful with that, I know of a UKIP member in Cornwall who was prosecuted for doing exactly the same thing.

Bring it on.

Ea of Dune · 12-05-2008, 02:39 PM

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Local police and military don't know this and so having it spelled out can only help.

If they opened the passport and looked inside it they would be able to tell pretty quickly as it says EU in many different languages. I don't buy the silly sticker argument, what happens when it peels of, or as is often the case when the airport stick a security check sticker over the EU one?
I doubt the police in many countries especially Commonwealth countries give a toss if it has an EU sticker on it anyway, they can tell a British passport pretty quickly.

Absolute waste of time and no doubt money.

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In fact I've spent much of the last 40 years working outside of Britain, and from time to time in some pretty far flung parts of the world at that.
Thankfully those days are in the past. It soon stops being fun.

On the occasions when I've had cause to call on our overseas embassies, especially in the last 20 years, I've found them to be staffed by an incompetent shower of time serving chinless wonders who didn't give much of a stuff for anything that interrupted their cushy life.

This still does not prove that the British consulates are any worst then the German or French or Romanian etc. My wifes experience of the consulate in New York was one of professionalism for example.

Ea of dune

yaro · 12-05-2008, 02:49 PM

How does the sticker look like, does anybody have a picture?

Aardvark · 13-05-2008, 08:36 AM

Not yet, yaro, as they haven't been designed, I don't think. It will probably be a blue flag with a ring of gold stars.

The EU is not always as well respected as the UK - it depends where you are in the world. There are plenty of places that it is better it be a Brit - the USofA for starters.

I've never had to use anybody's embassy or consulate so can't compare, but I have been to embassy/ambassadorial functions in many cities around the world. The staff are, as one might expect, a mix of great experience and knowledge, time servers, 'bright young things' and any other personality type you might encounter (including complete tart in the case of the 3 secretaries who sh@gged my mate in Jerusalem). It does, as pointed out, depend on people's expectations. My brother lost his passport, cash and plane ticket in an arson attack in Grenada; our 'man' couldn't have been more helpful in giving him a temporary get you home travel document and a loan for the ticket and assistance with the police complaint.

I wonder if they'll send me 2 stickers as I have to have 2 passports for my work. I won't be applying them.

Geoffrey Collier · 13-05-2008, 11:30 AM

I was told by a well known barrister, that national citizenship is a legal concept, whereas E.U. citizenship is merely a political one. Should that be the case, how can one indicate disapproval of being forced to advertise this 'political concept' on a personal passport?

I know someone who argues that the EU ring of gold stars, adopted from the Council of Europe, is a specifically religious symbol. The last I heard of him, he was engaged in torrents of correspondence, claiming that he should be excused from displaying any
document, showing those 'rings', on grounds of conscience. I could only live in a country like this!

12-05-2008, 01:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,615	I have never been aksed to remove the cover from my passport. Or asked why my passport got damaged on the front as to obliterate the words European Union. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems Last edited by mkpdavies; 12-05-2008 at 01:15 PM.

13-05-2008, 08:36 AM	#17 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,249	Not yet, yaro, as they haven't been designed, I don't think. It will probably be a blue flag with a ring of gold stars. The EU is not always as well respected as the UK - it depends where you are in the world. There are plenty of places that it is better it be a Brit - the USofA for starters. I've never had to use anybody's embassy or consulate so can't compare, but I have been to embassy/ambassadorial functions in many cities around the world. The staff are, as one might expect, a mix of great experience and knowledge, time servers, 'bright young things' and any other personality type you might encounter (including complete tart in the case of the 3 secretaries who sh@gged my mate in Jerusalem). It does, as pointed out, depend on people's expectations. My brother lost his passport, cash and plane ticket in an arson attack in Grenada; our 'man' couldn't have been more helpful in giving him a temporary get you home travel document and a loan for the ticket and assistance with the police complaint. I wonder if they'll send me 2 stickers as I have to have 2 passports for my work. I won't be applying them. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

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12-05-2008, 02:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
yaro Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 50 Party: None	How does the sticker look like, does anybody have a picture?

13-05-2008, 11:30 AM	#18 (permalink)
Geoffrey Collier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 707	I was told by a well known barrister, that national citizenship is a legal concept, whereas E.U. citizenship is merely a political one. Should that be the case, how can one indicate disapproval of being forced to advertise this 'political concept' on a personal passport? I know someone who argues that the EU ring of gold stars, adopted from the Council of Europe, is a specifically religious symbol. The last I heard of him, he was engaged in torrents of correspondence, claiming that he should be excused from displaying any document, showing those 'rings', on grounds of conscience. I could only live in a country like this!