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Old 22-04-2008, 10:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question What happens to existing resident aliens?

Hi, at my company we employ many EU foreign nationals who do not need work permits under current legislation. How would existing resident workers be handled under UKIP EU withdrawl plans?

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Old 23-04-2008, 02:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default UKIP immigration policy

The following are extracts from the UKIP immigration policy as published on the official UKIP website on 6.10.2007 (the text of the policy is not presently on the UKIP website):

UKIP immigration policy:

* Put in place border controls so that all non-UK nationals who enter the UK can be registered and tracked on their entry and exit from the country. Anyone overstaying their visa will be subject to arrest and removal from the country and will incur a ban on further entry to the UK for a minimum of five years

* Work permits will only be granted to workers who have a job and accommodation waiting for them, and who can financially support themselves or who will be accommodated or financially supported by their employer. This ‘No Home, No Visa’ policy will reduce the pressure on UK housing in short supply, and free up housing waiting lists for British citizens

*The UK will retain an open entry system and warm welcome for tourists from the EU and other countries as existing arrangements, but with proper border and security checks. Reciprocal arrangements for UK citizens visiting EU countries would be negotiated under the UK’s free trade agreement with the EU on regaining independence

* The UK would withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights

*The UK would fully apply the 1951 Convention on Refugees, particularly the clause on refugees having to accept asylum in the first safe country they reach.

If you require a full copy of the UKIP immigration policy - please contact UKIP.

Details of how to do so can be found on the following link:

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* Work permits will only be granted to workers who have a job and accommodation waiting for them
I wonder who sign a rental agreement few months ahead without seeing you personally, when they can get zillion people locally. You cannot have a job without a work permit. Work permit must be issued upon request of employer. This UKIP policy is nonsence.
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I wonder who sign a rental agreement few months ahead without seeing you personally, when they can get zillion people locally. You cannot have a job without a work permit. Work permit must be issued upon request of employer. This UKIP policy is nonsence.
If an employer really wants to recruit a person they will do the legwork as regards arranging accommodation and other “must haves” for the recruit. There are even firms who can be called on to do just these things.

This is exactly what happens in the US and Canada at present to my certain and first hand knowledge, and it works well.

In effect it adds an impendence to the recruitment of a non national and ensures that only those with skills that are not available in the host nation will be taken on.

I'm all for it for the EU.
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In effect it adds an impendence to the recruitment of a non national and ensures that only those with skills that are not available in the host nation will be taken on.
You are wrong. It only increases the amount of bureaucracy connected with employing skilled people from abroad. Companies need to decide how much skilled labour they need from abroad, not some law/government. You are blindly supporting more red-tape in Britain, while complaining about red-tape from the EU.
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As Bear has said, this is how it works in other Countries, there is no reason it can't work here too.
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As Bear has said, this is how it works in other Countries, there is no reason it can't work here too.
I still fail to grasp the advantages of that solution. It doesn't matter how many countries use it. Who knows better than employers how much skilled labour they need?

You cannot compare it with movement of unskilled labour, its a completely different matter, with different effects on the host country.
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How would existing resident workers be handled under UKIP EU withdrawl plans?

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I wouldn't worry too much. UKIP does not actually have a withdrawal strategy.
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Yaro, I cannot claim to know all the in's and out's about this particular issue, but in answer to one point you made, if there is to be red-tape of any sort, I personally would sure as hell prefer it to be British red-tape, than red-tape dictated by the EU.
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