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Old 18-04-2008, 05:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yes,that would be good if you could point us at something like that scrambledeggs.
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Britannist wrote: As we know, if the EU order the Irish Prime Minister to hold another referendum if the one this Summer there is lost (i.e. if the europhiles do not win it) - hold another he will.
The EU masters have always liked it this way.

NoMoreEUSSR wrote: Smacks of North Korea really.
There are similarities - the EU dismisses democratic opposition: just as the communist regime in North Korea does and, like the rulers of North Korea, the EU holds its decision-making (i.e. Commission) meetings in private. The EU leadership is also allying itself with the communist regime in China just as the North Korean communist thugs are.
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Like I have said for a long time now,we are allowing a Communist style European Union to gather strength within our time.

Shame on us.
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Welcome to the forum Srambledeggs.

There is an 'Introduce Yourself' section on the forum. Perhaps you might like to tell us a bit about yourself there? If you feel like it that is!

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I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one interested.
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PsyOp: Discrediting the Chinese Leadership

The short-term objective is to discredit the Chinese leadership in the months leading up to the Beijing Olympic games, while also using the Tibet campaign to divert public opinion from the Middle East war and the war crimes committed by the US, NATO and Israel.

China's alleged human rights violations are highlighted as a distraction, to provide a human face to the US led war in the Middle East.

The US sponsored war plans directed against Iran are now acknowledged and justified due to Tehran's noncompliance with the demands of the "international community".

With Tibet making the headlines, the real humanitarian crisis in the Middle East is not front page news.

More generally, the issue of human rights is distorted: realities are turned upside down, the extensive crimes committed by the US and its coalition partners are either concealed or justified as a means to protecting society against terrorists.

A "double standards" in the assessment of human rights violations has been instated. In the Middle East, the killing of civilians is categorized as collateral damage. It is justified as part of the "global war on terrorism". The victims are said to be responsible for their own deaths.
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Dad's day in court is still having an effect on EU

April 23, 2008 - By Ann Crotty

It was Christmas Eve, 1986, in Dublin, and I had decided I had too much last-minute sopping to be able to tag along with my dad, who was heading off to court in an effort to get an injunction to prevent the Irish implementation of the Single European Act (SEA).

I considered my options and concluded that Christmas shopping was likely to be more entertaining than a morning in court.

I have absolutely no recollection of what presents I bought that day. But the consequences of Dad's day in court are still affecting Ireland and its legal relationship with the EU.

Dad and his mates secured an injunction that Christmas Eve. They then lost a high court battle, but subsequently won in the supreme court, which ruled that there were aspects of the SEA that the government did not have the constitutional authority to sign. A referendum was needed to alter the constitution to implement the SEA.

It was the first referendum of many.

Legal opinion is divided on whether the "Crotty" case obliges the Irish government to defer to the Irish people whenever there is a significant new constitutional development in the EU.

But in every case since the supreme court's ruling in 1987, Ireland has, because of the Crotty case, held a referendum on whether to support major new constitutional changes in the EU.

There was a referendum in 1987 for the SEA; in 1992 for the Maastricht Treaty; in 1998 for the Amsterdam Treaty; and in 2001 Ireland held its first referendum on the Nice Treaty - the first referendum in which the Irish voted No.

It so troubled the government that it immediately decided to hold a second referendum on the treaty a year later, which produced the necessary Yes result.

Now Ireland is preparing for a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. This treaty is pretty much the same EU constitution that was rejected by France and Holland two years ago; there are a few bells and whistles missing, such as an anthem and flag.

The key difference between the EU constitution and the Lisbon Treaty is that the latter is incomprehensible - to the point of "drivel", according to one leading Irish businessman who has come out on the side of the No campaigners.

There is a view that the EU bureaucrats, terrified that the Irish might actually vote against the new EU constitution, which gives the bureaucrats much greater powers, have rendered the Lisbon Treaty incomprehensible in the hope that the Irish won't bother reading it and will merely vote in line with what their politicians tell them.

The overwhelming majority of the Irish politicians are recommending a Yes vote.

As in many democracies where politicians have been the subject of inquiries into the receipt of dodgy payments from business people, this might seem like a sure-fire way of insuring a No outcome. Particularly as the Lisbon Treaty will reduce the role of the members of the Irish parliament.

And yet these same MPs are not only not going into voluntary retirement, they recently secured a massive pay increase for themselves.

It seems that by constantly reminding people how Ireland has benefited from EU membership, Irish politicians are confident they will secure the outcome of the referendum - despite the fact that Ireland's EU membership is not at stake and that not one of the parties backing a No vote has suggested that Ireland should not be in the EU.

I'm not sure what Dad would have thought of it all. He lived to participate in only two of the referendums, but he might be saddened by the thought that this could be the last time the Irish people get a say on constitutional developments with the EU.

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I found this interesting link on the Lisbon Treaty. It looks as if the 'Yes' side are already starting to sound desperate. Nice to see the 'No' vote has already almost caught up with the 'Yes' vote!

Sunday Business Post | Irish Business News

Here's another link:

ireland.com - The Irish Times - Mon, Apr 28, 2008 - Taoiseach warns No to Lisbon would be 'disaster'
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Srambledeggs dont tell Zak64 nuthin.

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PsyOp: Discrediting the Chinese Leadership

The short-term objective is to discredit the Chinese leadership in the months leading up to the Beijing Olympic games, while also using the Tibet campaign to divert public opinion from the Middle East war and the war crimes committed by the US, NATO and Israel.

China's alleged human rights violations are highlighted as a distraction, to provide a human face to the US led war in the Middle East.

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Off your medication again HighlandFP?
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