The Recession will complete sterling's sabotage

The Bear · 14-04-2008, 12:05 PM

I'm watching for the stealth cuts.

davidnoakes · 15-04-2008, 08:37 PM

Bear, you are a victim of one of the hundreds of Frankfurt School subversion techniques, specifically the one implemented since the 60's where we were taught to denigate and lose belief in Britain. It was a stunningly successful technique - you are proof.

To chickrodah, an FCO EU subversion and disinformation asset.

Where are my plans for leaving the EU? They have been at eutruth.org.uk/campaigns.pdf for years, and are continually updated. You never do anything but write unsubstantiated attacks, do you?

One day, chickrodah, although you won't reasearch anything, you'll be forced to experience it first hand, and live under your beloved EU dictatorship and its police state in abject poverty. Your life will be no better than slavery, and you will be betrayed by your own EU heros.

British-Conservatism · 15-04-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by davidnoakes

Bear, you are a victim of one of the hundreds of Frankfurt School subversion techniques, specifically the one implemented since the 60's where we were taught to denigate and lose belief in Britain. It was a stunningly successful technique - you are proof.

To chickrodah, an FCO EU subversion and disinformation asset.

Where are my plans for leaving the EU? They have been at eutruth.org.uk/campaigns.pdf for years, and are continually updated. You never do anything but write unsubstantiated attacks, do you?

One day, chickrodah, although you won't reasearch anything, you'll be forced to experience it first hand, and live under your beloved EU dictatorship and its police state in abject poverty. Your life will be no better than slavery, and you will be betrayed by your own EU heros.

I suspect he is one of the 1960's generation of Middle Class left wing students.

Aardvark · 15-04-2008, 11:20 PM

BC,

Who? Bear, chikrodah, David Noakes? Basis for your supposition?

Stark · 16-04-2008, 01:37 AM

Nothing less than ye deserve ye tory scoundrels. Worse of it, ye have dragged we Americans into your paper, speculative abyss.

As it ever was.

Much love ya'all.

lukeair2006 · 16-04-2008, 04:13 AM

I totally agree with davidnoakes. There is no other explanation for why the fervent globalist Gordon Brown has kept the UK out of the Euro. This would also explain his attempts to cause social chaos by encouraging massive immigration of cheap eastern european labour to this country. For all those out there who rubbish conspiracy theories let me remind you that these are conspiracy facts. Gordon Brown and Tony Blair are fabian socialists. Appropriately, their symbol is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

chikrodah · 16-04-2008, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by davidnoakes

Bear, you are a victim of one of the hundreds of Frankfurt School subversion techniques, specifically the one implemented since the 60's where we were taught to denigate and lose belief in Britain. It was a stunningly successful technique - you are proof.

Good for you Dave. Keep peddling your spin.

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To chickrodah, an FCO EU subversion and disinformation asset.

Oh dear, I'm going to get my 00 licence revoked if I don't watch out!

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Where are my plans for leaving the EU? They have been at eutruth.org.uk/campaigns.pdf for years, and are continually updated. You never do anything but write unsubstantiated attacks, do you?

One day, chickrodah, although you won't reasearch anything, you'll be forced to experience it first hand, and live under your beloved EU dictatorship and its police state in abject poverty. Your life will be no better than slavery, and you will be betrayed by your own EU heros.

Thank you Dave.

So, your plans are:

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a permanent general strike, on or before the 1st January 2009, with a blockade of Westminster, continuing until our traitorous Ministers and MP’s quit Westminster, or until they vote that all six illegal EU treaties are struck out as null and void, and declare we are permanently out of the EU dictatorship.

Good game, good game.

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MPs surgeries. -the main campaign. 70 MPs must change sides to throw the Reform Treaty out. Our 646 MPs have weekly or fortnightly surgeries. They are there to serve ALL their constituents; that means you too. Look in the phone book for their Lib, Lab or Con political party and ask when and where the next MPs surgery is. Attend...

Bit late for that aren't we? Never mind.

I love this bit:

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The six constitutional Treaties make no provision for Westminster elections. They give the EU more than sufficient power to close Westminster, probably on the 5th May 2010 when its 5 year term expires. As Westminster will have no powers and no function inside Europe, it probably will. You will then lose your £240,000 salary and expenses.

No breakdown for the salary and expenses? We'll ignore that it's designed to convince others that MPs are earning £240k, plus expenses.

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Force a local referendum.
50 councils are holding polls. You too can force a referendum on your parish council, using Part 3, Schedule 12, paragraph 18, sub paras 4&5 of the 1972 Local Government Act as follows:

No, you can't. Your advice is out of date. Local parish polls have to be on local issues, not remaining in the EU or the LT.

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Report treason crime
Visit your local police station and report two crimes: 1. Edward Heath and Douglas Hurd (still an active Tory Traitor) committed “a conspiracy to subvert the Constitution - Sedition at common law,” and 2. “a conspiracy to hand this nation to the EEC/EU, treason at common law.”

You don't give up easily do you? Treason is a time-limited offence. There's plenty of free information, complete with reference to statute law, on this very forum. Go and read it, there's a good chap.

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The Press.
Choose a local newspaper, phone and ask for a list of journalists. Arrange for branch members to meet them one by one. Point out there will be no free press in the EU - case 274/99 of the European Court of "Justice" held it will be illegal to criticise the EU; take him through the one page summary of the EU Constitution, and any journalist worth his salt will understand the press will be severely controlled. Point out how the damage the EU is doing is easily related to local stories - its always making a mess, with its
regulations and on councils. The press could stop the EU on their own, if they understood the truth.

Now you were doing well with this one up to the phrase "the press could stop the EU on their own..."

There's more, but I have to get to my secret FCO disinfomation base.

The Bear · 16-04-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by davidnoakes

Bear, you are a victim of one of the hundreds of Frankfurt School subversion techniques, specifically the one implemented since the 60's where we were taught to denigate and lose belief in Britain. It was a stunningly successful technique - you are proof.

I don’t think so, for many years I’ve been appalled at the way that British sovereignty has been surrendered to the EU and I still hate the prospect of my nation being simply a state of a union, especially a union that is following a path that I neither like nor approve of.

Given the opportunity to get out then I would be red in tooth and claw working towards so doing, but there’s the problem.

In my opinion the opportunity has been lost.

The state of our economy, the nature of our population, the SIZE of our population, the nature of todays world and the effects of globalisation in my considered opinion all rule out any opportunity to withdraw fro the EU and survive in any meaningful way.

On a "go it alone plan" our competition in todays world is a guy who gets by on the figurative handful of rice a day.

Granted that handful is now a big handful, and now includes a fair amount of other bits and pieces, but it’s still a long way removed from what we have become used to even on a reduced diet.

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Originally Posted by davidnoakes

Where are my plans for leaving the EU? They have been at eutruth.org.uk/campaigns.pdf for years, and are continually updated. You never do anything but write unsubstantiated attacks, do you?

But shouldn’t those plans include a survival plan if Britain DID leave the EU?

Starting with a day 1 survival plan once the prospect began to look like it might succeed, then leading through a business plan on how Britain would survive on “the day after” once ties were being severed, and lead into a “stable running situation” plan for after the inevitable churn had ceased?

All I see is a plan to survive jumping off the Titanic along the lines of “Jump into the sea” and no consideration let alone mention of what to do on the way down or when you hit the ice cold water.

mattyr2k8 · 16-04-2008, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

It's not the EU that's screwed us, it's lousy government, especially from this lot, and a changing world.

thats what the NWO wants you to think.

Millennium3 · 16-04-2008, 08:07 AM

Bear 'All I see is a plan to survive jumping off the Titanic along the lines of “Jump into the sea” and no consideration let alone mention of what to do on the way down or when you hit the ice cold water.'

My understanding is that, once the LT is ratified, we have to give two years notice if we want to leave [this is not complicated by QMV in the first 5 years, again I understand!]. This is useful for it would give sometime to prepare for the change.

15-04-2008, 08:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
davidnoakes Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 149	Reply to the Bear and Chikrodah Bear, you are a victim of one of the hundreds of Frankfurt School subversion techniques, specifically the one implemented since the 60's where we were taught to denigate and lose belief in Britain. It was a stunningly successful technique - you are proof. To chickrodah, an FCO EU subversion and disinformation asset. Where are my plans for leaving the EU? They have been at eutruth.org.uk/campaigns.pdf for years, and are continually updated. You never do anything but write unsubstantiated attacks, do you? One day, chickrodah, although you won't reasearch anything, you'll be forced to experience it first hand, and live under your beloved EU dictatorship and its police state in abject poverty. Your life will be no better than slavery, and you will be betrayed by your own EU heros. __________________ David Noakes. http://eutruth.org.uk 07974 437 097 drjnoakesdel@yahoo.co.uk (delete the letters del - I\'m trying to stop spam.)

15-04-2008, 11:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,249	BC, Who? Bear, chikrodah, David Noakes? Basis for your supposition? __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

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Stark Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1	ye downfall Nothing less than ye deserve ye tory scoundrels. Worse of it, ye have dragged we Americans into your paper, speculative abyss. As it ever was. Much love ya'all. Last edited by Stark; 16-04-2008 at 01:47 AM.

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The Bear Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Anglia Posts: 1,914	I'm watching for the stealth cuts.

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lukeair2006 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3	I totally agree with davidnoakes. There is no other explanation for why the fervent globalist Gordon Brown has kept the UK out of the Euro. This would also explain his attempts to cause social chaos by encouraging massive immigration of cheap eastern european labour to this country. For all those out there who rubbish conspiracy theories let me remind you that these are conspiracy facts. Gordon Brown and Tony Blair are fabian socialists. Appropriately, their symbol is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

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Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 3,758	Bear 'All I see is a plan to survive jumping off the Titanic along the lines of “Jump into the sea” and no consideration let alone mention of what to do on the way down or when you hit the ice cold water.' My understanding is that, once the LT is ratified, we have to give two years notice if we want to leave [this is not complicated by QMV in the first 5 years, again I understand!]. This is useful for it would give sometime to prepare for the change.