Tony Bennett

The petition for a referendum on the E.U. Treaty has now topped 11,000.

Meanwhile the anti-mosque petition has roared ahead tonight to: 138,045

komerad

Shows which petition the british public think is the more important issue,
would you belive?

Tony Bennett

Below is a welcome exchange of correspondence between Dr Denis Cooper and Stuart Coster of the Democracy Movement. Now for UKIP to follow suit (I hope and trust).

Meanwhile the E.U. Treaty petition has advanced to over 11,300, while my prediction that the anti-mosque petition would top 150,000 has been reached already (now 152,000). Maybe it'll end up nearer 200,000 by 18th July - about 15,000 a day are signing it right now - more than one every 6 seconds, day and night.

By the way, komerad, I don't agree with you that the British public regard the E.U. Treaty issue as less important than the mosque. I suspect that support for it has been much better organised, and the failure to promote the this pro-referendum petition more than it has been to date reflects adversely on us as professed eurosceptics.

If it can be done well for the road pricing and mosque issues, it most certaoinly can and should be done to camaign against the disguised E.U. Constitution also:

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MOST RECENT FIRST

From: Denis Cooper To: Stuart Coster
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: REFERENDUM PETITION TOPS 10,000

Excellent!

I asked the co-ordinator of the rally whether he could put the petition on his website, and he said that he will - so then whenever we give the link for the rally we'll also be giving the link for the petition.

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From: Stuart Coster To: Denis Cooper
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: REFERENDUM PETITION TOPS 10,000

Now up on the DM website, Denis - sorry for delay.

http://www.democracymovement.org.uk

Will circulate in forthcoming e-Bulletin too. Expect that will make more of a difference.

Onwards and upwards! Or should that be outwards?

all the best,

Stuart Coster

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From: Denis Cooper
To: Undisclosed Recipients
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: REFERENDUM PETITION TOPS 10,000

The E-Petition demanding a referendum on the revived EU Constitution, here:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk:80/EU-treaty-NON/

has now passed the 10,000 signature mark.

10,000 signatures may not seem that many, but out of nearly 11,000 E-Petitions only forty have previously reached this level.

This is the forty-first, it has been roughly doubling in size each week, and it's becoming the principle means by which thousands of people can quickly and easily express their opposition to the planned stitch-up.

But people can't sign a petition unless they know about it. So to help it along please sign up if you haven't already done so, and even if you can't sign for any reason please pass the link on to other people, and get it as much publicity as possible.

Although it's no longer to be found on the Labour Party website, their 2005 manifesto was perfectly clear (page 84):

“We will put it to the British people in a referendum”

So are we going to let them cheat us?

Dr Denis Cooper, Maidenhead

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Tony Bennett

The E.U. Treaty petition calling for a referendum is progressing at 250 a day - not bad - and now tops 11,500.

Meanwhile, in the last 24 hours, over 21,000 people have petitioned against the 'mega-mosque', the number of petitioners now standing at 172,770 at the time of posting (just after 11pm). The rate of signing is now down - or should I say up - to 1 person signing up every 4 seconds. I wonder if it can go any faster?

Veelad

http://www.gmb.org.uk/Templates/Pres...p?NodeID=95709

The GMB Union is now calling for a referendum, albeit for different reasons than the EU sceptics

should we email them and ask them to post the No10 petition link on their website ?

I would do it, but have the popularalliance.org email, and they may think its a eurosceptic political party petitition and being paranoid lefties they may not put the link on their website.

Tony Bennett

The referendum petition - another 300-plus today, up to 11,800.

The anti mega-mosque petiton - up 20,000 from this time yesterday at 192,668. And still 5 days to go!

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Tony Bennett

Well done Chrisopehr Booker for mentioning this in his column today.

"We have just three months to make Mr Brown honest. As a start, I suggest that every reader who believes in democracy signs the petition on the Downing Street website (http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/EU-treaty-NON) asking for a binding referendum on any and all attempts to resurrect the 'constitution'.

And shame on Nigel Farage (see below) for (a) refusing to mention this important petition on UKIP's website for 6 months and then (b) starting his own similar UKIP petition, the main effect of which will be to blunt the other one.

I will support and campaign only for the original R J Mansfield petition for a referendum.

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DEREK BENNETT circulated this:

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----- Original Message -----
From: Eurorealistnl@aol.com
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:15 AM
Subject: Please sign the petition


Please go to: http://www.letthepeopledecide.co.uk and sign the petition to let the people decide for themselves about the EU constitution.

Regards, Derek Bennett.

We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Let the people decide on the future relationship between Britain and the European Union and not pass through new treaties without consulting the voters.

Submitted by Nigel Farage MEP of UK Independence Party – Deadline to sign up by: 11 July 2008 – Signatures: 228

UNQUOTE

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Then DR DENIS COOPER OF MAIDENHEAD circulated this:

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Nice website, but this non-UKIP petition

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/EU-treaty-NON/

has already gone over 12,000, although it's now petering out rather than spreading out into the general public. So while I can see the point of Nigel promoting such a petition, I don't quite see the point of starting a completely new one at this juncture!

If only he'd started it a month or two ago...but even then, there are eurosceptic Tories who would never sign any petition started by a UKIP MEP, and I've heard that in Reading they've started their own (hardcopy) 'Conservative' petition for a referendum - more fragmentation. On something like this it's better to stay cross-party, non-party, as far as possible.

I know the wording is different and the UKIP petition is more general, but for Joe Public they'll seem rather similar. Having asked non-political friends to sign the first, and got several to do so, I can't now go back and ask them to sign the second as well.

"We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to guarantee that the British people will be permitted a binding referendum on any and all attempts to resurrect the EU "constitution" (and any or all of its content) regardless of nomenclature."

"We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Let the people decide on the future relationship between Britain and the European Union and not pass through new treaties without consulting the voters."

I suppose we could end up with two or more small or medium sized petitions, rather than one big one.

UNQUOTE

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Bluemerle

12,000 signatories. This should have been over 100,000 by now. People are either not bothered or totally ignorant as to what it means.

I see Nigel has started one as well. Personally I think it is better if the whole thing is non political. If it is pushed by UKIP, the tories won't want to sign, if it is pushed by the Tories, Nu Lab won't sign. It must be non party political.

Tony Bennett

Christopher Booker's timely intervention in today's 'Sunday Telegraph', in mentioning the R J Mansfield petition calling for a referendum on the E.U. Treaty, has led to 1,000 signing today alone, bringing the total signatories to over 13,000.

Assuming a knock-on effect, this petition could soon make the 'Top Ten'. Booker's intervention could even turn out to be a watershed moment in the national 'push' for that referendum - which 80% to 90% of people say they want (I make that well over 30 million people aged 18+).

Meanwhile the anti-'mega mosque' petition has swollen to over 226,000, with under three days to go

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Westcountryman

I didn't realise that it had gotten media coverage. That's excellent news, Mr. Booker is to be commended. I hope the mention translates into a lot more publicity and more signatures!

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