'Irish Republic may hold referendum: Tories demand one here'

Britannist · 25-06-2007, 07:39 PM

It must be the rain outside.

Westcountryman · 25-06-2007, 07:41 PM

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It must be the rain outside.

Must be.

g hall · 25-06-2007, 10:14 PM

Be careful what you wish for boy dave because if you get one and the vote is against the constitution/treaty/B-Liars legacy the most obvious step is a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU and that then could be bye bye europhiles

Hereward77 · 25-06-2007, 11:43 PM

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Britannist, did you hear something? I could have sworn I did...

Do you have a problem with my statement regarding Michael "Something of the Night" Howard? Do you deny that he was responsible for the rise of David Cameron? Are you a Tory/Establishment infiltrator?

Hartlepool · 26-06-2007, 09:42 AM

David Cameron is a protege of Michael Howard.(in fact,I believe I made the same comment on here about two years ago).

rjt · 26-06-2007, 10:31 AM

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The Labour Party knows that if today's Conservative leadership calls for a referendum on the EU Constitution (re-heated version) all they (Labour) have to do is calls the Conservatives hypocrites because it was the Conservative Government which wouldn't have a referendum on EU Treaties during the 18 years of Conservative rule form 1979 to 1997.

But as Boris Johnson said when pulled up for this on QT - that's not a good reason to not have one now.

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It's not unlike the situation with the Conservatives regarding Iraq. The Conservatives now try to criticise Blair/Labour over the situation there and say they are now against the sending of UK troops (to Iraq) - but, of course, under the leadership of Mr. Michael Howard, they backed the sending of British soldiers (into Iraq) and are now not in the best position to criticise the Labour Government over this.

Heh, in my opinion, Michael Howard is 10 times the Conservative David Cameron will ever be.

The same Michael Howard who voted for Masstricht and the SEA and supported Majors policy of the Hard ECU?

Westcountryman · 26-06-2007, 12:03 PM

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Britannist, there's that noise again. Any idea what it is? :?

Westcountryman · 26-06-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rjt

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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The Labour Party knows that if today's Conservative leadership calls for a referendum on the EU Constitution (re-heated version) all they (Labour) have to do is calls the Conservatives hypocrites because it was the Conservative Government which wouldn't have a referendum on EU Treaties during the 18 years of Conservative rule form 1979 to 1997.

But as Boris Johnson said when pulled up for this on QT - that's not a good reason to not have one now.

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It's not unlike the situation with the Conservatives regarding Iraq. The Conservatives now try to criticise Blair/Labour over the situation there and say they are now against the sending of UK troops (to Iraq) - but, of course, under the leadership of Mr. Michael Howard, they backed the sending of British soldiers (into Iraq) and are now not in the best position to criticise the Labour Government over this.

Heh, in my opinion, Michael Howard is 10 times the Conservative David Cameron will ever be.

The same Michael Howard who voted for Masstricht and the SEA and supported Majors policy of the Hard ECU?

As I said earlier, Howard's credentials when it comes to the EU are sorely lacking.

rjt · 26-06-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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Originally Posted by rjt

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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The Labour Party knows that if today's Conservative leadership calls for a referendum on the EU Constitution (re-heated version) all they (Labour) have to do is calls the Conservatives hypocrites because it was the Conservative Government which wouldn't have a referendum on EU Treaties during the 18 years of Conservative rule form 1979 to 1997.

But as Boris Johnson said when pulled up for this on QT - that's not a good reason to not have one now.

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It's not unlike the situation with the Conservatives regarding Iraq. The Conservatives now try to criticise Blair/Labour over the situation there and say they are now against the sending of UK troops (to Iraq) - but, of course, under the leadership of Mr. Michael Howard, they backed the sending of British soldiers (into Iraq) and are now not in the best position to criticise the Labour Government over this.

Heh, in my opinion, Michael Howard is 10 times the Conservative David Cameron will ever be.

The same Michael Howard who voted for Masstricht and the SEA and supported Majors policy of the Hard ECU?

As I said earlier, Howard's credentials when it comes to the EU are sorely lacking.

Sad thing is a lot of people fell for the act in 2005 ' he is a euro sceptic they cried and as UKIP cannot win we are better off voting Conservative to get Blair out.'

Westcountryman · 26-06-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rjt

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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Originally Posted by rjt

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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The Labour Party knows that if today's Conservative leadership calls for a referendum on the EU Constitution (re-heated version) all they (Labour) have to do is calls the Conservatives hypocrites because it was the Conservative Government which wouldn't have a referendum on EU Treaties during the 18 years of Conservative rule form 1979 to 1997.

But as Boris Johnson said when pulled up for this on QT - that's not a good reason to not have one now.

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It's not unlike the situation with the Conservatives regarding Iraq. The Conservatives now try to criticise Blair/Labour over the situation there and say they are now against the sending of UK troops (to Iraq) - but, of course, under the leadership of Mr. Michael Howard, they backed the sending of British soldiers (into Iraq) and are now not in the best position to criticise the Labour Government over this.

Heh, in my opinion, Michael Howard is 10 times the Conservative David Cameron will ever be.

The same Michael Howard who voted for Masstricht and the SEA and supported Majors policy of the Hard ECU?

As I said earlier, Howard's credentials when it comes to the EU are sorely lacking.

Sad thing is a lot of people fell for the act in 2005 ' he is a euro sceptic they cried and as UKIP cannot win we are better off voting Conservative to get Blair out.'

LOL, I know what you mean. If only the idiots remembered that for a start he was a member of the Britain in Europe group.

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26-06-2007, 09:42 AM	#15 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,785 Party: Free England Party	David Cameron is a protege of Michael Howard.(in fact,I believe I made the same comment on here about two years ago).