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    Re: Weather & Climate, g hall wrote:-

    Spot the difference ?
    Have You ?????

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    Only 1's that don't know, are the genuine people thinking it's about others sharing their own ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clippo View Post
    Alternatively, from an interview with the Guardian he gave in 2002 :-

    It was then that Goldsmith asked him to stand against Major. "In some ways it was probably the most stupid thing I ever did because I'm sure that if I have been banned from television, that's why. I used to be on Blue Peter and all those things, regularly, and it all, pffffft, stopped."
    Actually, he says, his TV career had stopped some time before that - he made his last BBC series eight years ago. Perhaps he is too scruffy for telly these days, I suggest. He gives me a look. "There are some bloody scruffy people on television these days. Very scruffy in what they think and the way they talk."

    The Monday interview: David Bellamy | Media | The Guardian

    I won’t mention his ’glaciers aren’t melting’ Faux Pas

    Does he really know what he’s talking about - I doubt it ?????

    "Actually" Clippo you've quoted the article as saying:

    "Actually, he says, his TV career had stopped some time before that - he made his last BBC series eight years ago."

    This article you've posted was in 2002, so 8 years ago was about 1994.

    Then his comments as a guest on Blue Peter occurred in 1996.

    "It was in 1996 that I criticised wind farms while appearing on Blue Peter and I also had an article published in which I described global warming as poppycock."

    So Clippo, rather than bring us something else by simply saying "Alternatively", all you've done is reinforce that it was after he stopped making BBC programmes in 1994, and after his comments on Blue Peter in 1996, but before the Goldsmith affair.

    Do you know what you're talking about ?
    Presumably you were trying to make a point ?
    Only 1's that don't know, are the genuine people thinking it's about others sharing their own ideas.

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    YCHTT
    I quote this summary from the other link I gave :-

    To sum up: in 1996/1997 David Bellamy ran against John Major and had anti-EU sympathies which caused a BBC that did not give a damn about climate change to dismiss him in 1994 for opinions on climate that he would not hold until some time in 2003/2004 and for an article that he would not write until 2004. That Damn BBC, always so far ahead of the curve!
    you wrote:-
    Presumably you were trying to make a point ?
    The only point I'm trying to make is that David Bellamy himself seems to be confused about his own career.

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    Clippo

    Conspiracy paranoia taking over from commonsense again. Name names and exact instances.
    Glad to hear you now no longer believe that scientists can't be brought by the oil companies.

    Good for you on being unafraid to change your mind.

    Personally, I think scientists are just as likely to be open to subversion by the coin as there rest of us weak humans, but I respect your faith in humanity.

    Here's an article on bias, with regards to Government based funding in science.

    The Reference Frame: Political bias and science
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clippo View Post

    The issue for most people, and why the phrase is a truism that most people have to live with all their lives , is that they may not have a convenient ‘escape’ route.
    Very true, but the smart man sees a trap before they get caught, and always has a plan B. A wise man once told me that if you back up your work each day without fail you will never ever need that backup, but the moment you get sloppy and careless is the time when you will need the backup you never thought you would need. Do you get my point? It can also be explained by saying if you have no vulnerabilities no one will try it on, but the moment you leave yourself reliant on one person or organisation you will get screwed. He told me computers have little demons inside of them waiting for you to forget to back up your work. (He was head of the Church of England’s computers by the way!)
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    Mpkdavies wrote:-
    Glad to hear you now no longer believe that scientists can't be brought by the oil companies.

    Good for you on being unafraid to change your mind.
    To remove the confusion of the double negative and typo apart, I will clarify that that I’ve always believed some ‘scientists’ could be ‘bought’ by, not only, the oil companies but also other businesses. It’s further refreshing to see that you agree.
    The problem for them is that have to report their work in non peer-reviewed or respectable sources and hen they get found out. As would reputable scientists working for grants if they corrupted their conclusions to gain further funding.

    But here was me thinking you were referring to big bad ol’ governments who fund most of the independent research into all subjects and those weak scientists reporting GW in a way that their Govts. wanted to hear.

    (Hang on a minute – in the US of A, I thought the govt. of Dubya wanted to disbelieve AGW – yet those pesky scientists kept telling him the other story. Obviously men & women of great principles)

    Oh but what a nasty government trying to suppress the scientific truth:-

    Scientific Integrity in the News | Union of Concerned Scientists


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    I am employed, but I left my last company out of principle, as they were fully involved with ID cards.
    This could be interpreted as you actually abandoning your principles and voting with your feet. Did this company do work ONLY on ID cards ? Could you not have asked for a transfer into another department ? etc.

    (makes chicken noise –cluck cluck cluck …….)

    Obviously, according to the logic in Baron’s last post, you weren’t very smart to see the trap coming.

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    Baron wrote:-
    Very true, but the smart man sees a trap before they get caught, and always has a plan B.
    What was Bellamy’s then ?

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    Clippo

    I will clarify that that I’ve always believed some ‘scientists’ could be ‘bought’ by
    So it isn't paranoid conspiracy statement, as you said before. You ain't afraid to change your mind are you.

    This could be interpreted as you actually abandoning your principles and voting with your feet.
    Which principle did I abandon?

    Did this company do work ONLY on ID cards ?
    No

    Could you not have asked for a transfer into another department ?
    I could have, but I don't want to work for/help a company that promotes them. Moving dept wouldn't have changed that.

    (makes chicken noise –cluck cluck cluck …….)
    Your grandchild seems to have jumped on your computer without you realising. Tell him not to do that in the future.

    you weren’t very smart to see the trap coming.
    You fiend. I have never seen such cunning before. I still can't see the trap and I am supposedly in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clippo View Post
    Re: Weather & Climate, g hall wrote:-



    Have You ?????
    Besoeker posted he could spot a difference I merely asked him what it was however if you know it you tell us
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