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    Exclamation Extensive Evidence of Global Cooling



    2006 - There IS a problem with global warming... it stopped in 1998 (The Daily Telegraph, UK, April 9, 2006)
    2006 - Earth in for another "ice age" in mid-century - scientist (Russian News and Information Agency, February 6, 2006)
    2006 - Russian Scientist Issues Global Cooling Warning (Russian News and Information Agency, August 25, 2006)
    2006 - Short-Term Ocean Cooling Suggests Global Warming 'Speed Bump' (Science Daily, September 21, 2006)
    2006 - The Coldest Year In The Last Five Years (The Reference Frame, December 16, 2006)
    2007 - The Coming Global Cooling? (World Climate Report, March 16, 2007)
    2007 - Canadian Professor: Prepare for Global Cooling (NewsMax, June 21, 2007)
    2007 - Is 'global cooling' the real threat? (The Washington Times, June 24, 2007)
    2007 - Year of Global Cooling (The Washington Times, December 19, 2007)
    2007 - Get Ready for Global Cooling (NewsMax, December 19, 2007)
    2008 - A cold spell soon to replace global warming (Russian News and Information Agency, January 3, 2008)
    2008 - Br-r-r! Where did global warming go? (The Boston Globe, January 6, 2008)
    2008 - First snow for 100 years falls on Baghdad (AFP, January 11, 2008)
    2008 - Saudi Arabia covered with snow in coldest winter for 20 years (Russian News and Information Agency, January 11, 2008)
    2008 - Up to 61 killed by heavy snow in Afghanistan (Russian News and Information Agency, January 11, 2008)
    2008 - Russian scientist says Earth could soon face new Ice Age (Russian News and Information Agency, January 22, 2008)
    2008 - China battles "coldest winter in 100 years" (Reuters, February 4, 2008)
    2008 - Canadian Scientists Fear Global Cooling (NewsBusters, February 8, 2008)
    2008 - Solar Activity Diminishes; Researchers Predict Another Ice Age (DailyTech, February 9, 2008)
    2008 - Welcome to the 'Icebox' of America: Minnesota town hits a record low (International Herald Tribune, February 11, 2008)
    2008 - 4 sources say "globally cooler" in the past 12 months (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, February 19, 2008)
    2008 - Forget global warming: Welcome to the new Ice Age (National Post, Canada, February 25, 2008)
    2008 - Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling (DailyTech, February 26, 2008)
    2008 - Global warming sceptics buoyed by record cold (The Daily Telegraph, UK, February 26, 2008)
    2008 - Coolest Winter Since 2001 For U.S., Globe, According To NOAA Data (Science Daily, March 15, 2008)
    2008 - It was the coldest Easter for more than 40 years (Daily Mail, UK, March 25, 2008)
    2008 - The Oceans Have Stopped Warming! (Canada Free Press, March 26, 2008)
    2008 - Global temperatures 'to decrease' (BBC, April 4, 2008)
    2008 - No Global Warming Since 1998 As Planet Cools Off (Prison Planet, April 4, 2008)
    2008 - Global Warming? Northeast Skies Through a Snowy Season (The New York Sun, April 4, 2008)
    2008 - Global warming? Scotland sees its best snow in a decade (The Times, UK, April 19, 2008)
    2008 - The Antarctic deep sea gets colder (Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research, April 21, 2008)
    2008 - Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh (The Australian, April 23, 2008)
    2008 - Global warming may 'stop', scientists predict (The Daily Telegraph, UK, April 30, 2008)
    2008 - May Day storm brings snow to Colorado mountains (USA Today, May 1, 2008)
    2008 - New Jason Satellite Indicates 23-Year Global Cooling (Hawaii Reporter, May 7, 2008)
    2008 - U.S. Has 36th Coolest Spring on Record (NOAA, June 6, 2008)
    2008 - Global Temperature Also Cooler in May (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, June 6, 2008)
    2008 - Global Warming Movement Turns Cool (James Spann, AMS Certified Meteorologist, June 22, 2008)
    2008 - Australian Researchers Warn of Global Cooling (DailyTech, July 1, 2008)
    2008 - Charlotte temperature hits 123-year low (The Charlotte Observer, July 2, 2008)
    2008 - UAH Global Temperatures, June 2008 still low (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, July 2, 2008)
    2008 - Four scientists: Global Warming Out, Global Cooling In (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, July 12, 2008)
    2008 - Anchorage’s record setting cold summer (Anchorage Daily News, July 24th, 2008)
    2008 - More Global Cooling Ahead, Study Says (The Heartland Institute, August 1, 2008)
    2008 - Could the Earth be cooling its heels? (Delta Farm Press, August 7, 2008)
    2008 - Solar radio waves could signal global cooling (Financial Post, Canada, August 11, 2008)
    2008 - Is there a cold future just lying in wait for us? (Belfast Telegraph, UK, August 13, 2008)
    2008 - Decade has had fewest 90-degree days since 1930 (Chicago Tribune, August 13, 2008)
    2008 - Dearth Of Sunspot Activity To Herald New Ice Age? (Prison Planet, August 14, 2008)
    2008 - Hadley Climate Center Data shows global cooling in the last year (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, August 15, 2008)
    2008 - Mexican scientist warn Earth will enter 'Little Ice Age' for up to 80 Years Due to decrease in solar activity (Right Side News, August 19, 2008)
    2008 - Global cooling gains momentum among scientists (Delta Farm Press, August 25, 2008)
    2008 - 'Snowfall' shocks Kenyan village (BBC, September 3, 2008)
    2008 - Global Warming’s Kaput; 2008 Coolest in 5 Years (Newsmax, September 8, 2008)
    2008 - Old Farmers Almanac: Global cooling may be underway (USA Today, September 9, 2008)

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    Hey PopTech,

    Great information, it's a pleasure to have you here.

    I feel my contrinution at exposing this fraud is somewhat pitiful.

    Well let us not forget that when I asked him whethre the world was undrgoing global waming or global cooling, Clippo stated clearly global warming.

    Any attempt to backtrack and proclaim global cooling will mean he is discredited in his initial argument.
    Only 1's that don't know, are the genuine people thinking it's about others sharing their own ideas.

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    He's (if it is he) tried swamping posts with apparently serious references before :-

    However, all of his references are to secondary or tertiary media reports and a lot of them to the usual crackpot sites. therefore not worth a carrot. - I guess that's why you contrarians & conspirators here love it.

    (& notice how the graph he quotes conveniently starts in 1998 - obviously he has read 'How to lie with statistics')
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clippo View Post
    He's (if it is he) tried swamping posts with apparently serious references before :-

    However, all of his references are to secondary or tertiary media reports and a lot of them to the usual crackpot sites. therefore not worth a carrot. - I guess that's why you contrarians & conspirators here love it.

    (& notice how the graph he quotes conveniently starts in 1998 - obviously he has read 'How to lie with statistics')
    Given some of the sites promoting Al Gore's snake oil I'd be more careful about your comment crackpot
    as for reading "How to lie with statistics" the IPCC are pretty good at that as are you
    "That government is best which governs least."
    "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries".
    "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clippo View Post
    He's (if it is he) tried swamping posts with apparently serious references before :-

    However, all of his references are to secondary or tertiary media reports and a lot of them to the usual crackpot sites. therefore not worth a carrot. - I guess that's why you contrarians & conspirators here love it.

    (& notice how the graph he quotes conveniently starts in 1998 - obviously he has read 'How to lie with statistics')
    Can't you debate the science without the need to label anyone who disagrees with you as a crackpot or conspirator Clippo ?

    Is freedom of speech and freedom of thought ok without the need to be stereotyped ?

    Isn't adult scientific debate enough to make your scientific point, or is slandering the integrity of other websites (without any scientific basis) essentially your only argument ?

    Personally I reckon most people see you as the crackpot Clippo, but some things simply don't need to be said.
    Only 1's that don't know, are the genuine people thinking it's about others sharing their own ideas.

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    By the way Clippo, are you intentionally dodging my simple question I posted earlier by any chance ?

    Or are you still trying to think of an answer ?
    Only 1's that don't know, are the genuine people thinking it's about others sharing their own ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clippo View Post
    He's (if it is he) tried swamping posts with apparently serious references before :-

    However, all of his references are to secondary or tertiary media reports and a lot of them to the usual crackpot sites. therefore not worth a carrot. - I guess that's why you contrarians & conspirators here love it.
    You cannot deal with reality so you make things up, too bad all these sources are legitimate...

    AFP
    Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research
    Anchorage Daily News
    Anthony Watts, Meteorologist
    BBC
    Belfast Telegraph
    Canada Free Press
    Chicago Tribune
    Daily Mail
    DailyTech
    Delta Farm Press
    Financial Post
    Hawaii Reporter
    Newsbusters
    NewsMax
    NOAA
    Reuters
    Russian News and Information Agency
    Science Daily
    The Australian
    The Boston Globe
    The Charlotte Observer
    The Daily Telegraph
    The Heartland Institute
    The New York Sun
    The Times
    The Washington Times
    USA Today
    World Climate Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Clippo View Post
    (& notice how the graph he quotes conveniently starts in 1998 - obviously he has read 'How to lie with statistics')
    Funny how it has been cooling since 1998, deny Global Cooling all you like, it will not make it go away.

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    Be careful Poptech, many of the global warming advocates have now changed tack to say that it is because of C02 that we are now apparently undergoing global cooling.

    Fortunately that doesn't include Clippo (unless he decides to U-turn of course)
    Last edited by youcanhandlethetruth; 17-09-2008 at 01:21 AM. Reason: typo
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    Quote Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth View Post
    Be careful Poptech, many of the global warming advocates have now changed tack to say that it is because of C02 that we are now apparently undergoing global cooling.

    Fortunately that doesn't include Clippo (unless he decides to U-turn of course)
    He'll probably invent another alias something like Clotto perhaps
    "That government is best which governs least."
    "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries".
    "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful."
    TANSTAAFL
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