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Got any basis for that?

mkpdavies

Write to your council and ask them how much you now pay to have your rubbish collected.

I am paying roughly double now. Though I admit this includes other wonderful benefits such as CCTV, windmills on roundabouts etc.

When they send the next breakdown, I will scam it in and show you what a scam it all is.

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And, without that, manufacturing pulp from new raw material would be cheaper?
Because that's what you are claiming.

mkpdavies

Yes it would, because the cost of recyled goods would be more expensive to companies, as they won't have the stolen taxpayer cash to create it cheaper.

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But more expensive than using raw materials?

Do you know how much it costs to produce pulp from new raw material?
Do you know the extent to which recycled paper comes solely from kerbside collection and how much is commercial waste?
Do you know how much paper mills pay for that waste?
Do you know how much de-inking costs?
To be certain of what you are claiming, you would need to know all that and a lot more in detail.
Do you?

mkpdavies

All I know, is that businesses chose to use new stuff rather than recycled, before the taxpayer got raped to make it worth their while using it.

If it was more profitable to use recycled than new, then the taxpayer wouldn't need raping, as business would see it in their interest to encourage recycling for their own gain.

Once upon a time this was the case with certain materials and it may be again if materials become scarce. For now though, thing like paper and plastic are a total waste of time, energy and money. It does more harm than good and people have to be robbed to keep the whole scam going to boot.

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Papermills didn't.
Recycling started long before kerbside collection.

tito

You are being entirely evasive and pedantic.

Recycling is one big subsidised mess right now, the commodity is valuable only because so much of the process is done with public money. This is a direct disincentive for companies to invest in recycling to make it affordable, efficient and practical.

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You all better get used to it and stop whinging - we've been living off the future for way too long, and industrialised packaging is a luxury that will increasingly disappear.

tito

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It's just more of your left-wing savagery.

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