Seasider

I love it



Can picture it now and maybe some other punters will decide to give it a go too.

I shall that's for sure.


Maybe we should have a special day......and have a recruitment drive for any 'up fer it wimmin!'.
Then orchestrate across the country day of....Messing Around with Marks

When they stopped selling British made goods (which had been one of their big selling points), I boycotted them for a while but then found there was nowhere to buy British any more

Besoeker

From sustainable and managed forests.
Except, of course, where it is used to make any of the myriad of other LDPE products.....
[quote=Britannist;499443]The production of plastic bags does not involve large areas of land (unlike paper bags where large forests of trees covering huge areas have to be planted to produce the paper).
Like I said, above, sustainable and managed forests. If tree farming required more and more land, it would pretty soon cease to be commercially viable.
In passing, I should perhaps add that the wood used for papermaking is mostly soft wood (long fibres) - typically fir and spruce.
In UK, at least, much of the pulp made from that came from northern Europe, particularly the Scandinavian countries and from land that would generally not be conducive to arable farming.
I don't know about you, but I would rather my environment didn't have litter of any sort. Paper products will generally degrade much faster than plastic bags (which can take 1000 years). The very fact that your paper bag gets soggy if you let it get wet is part of the reason for them degrading or disintegrating much faster.

rjt

Shame nobody recorded that, it would have given hours of amusement on youtube.

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Tara

I saw your reply and thought you were going to have a go at me being a good Christian and all that

Well, after my bestest friend in the whole wide world Baron put a spanner in the works (something my mother normally does) I was too scared to do it but heard on the radio this morning that a man in Surrey did exactly the same thing on Saturday, felt so inspired that I was raring to go and went for it. It's been a great day, only downside being, all that wonderful food was such a tease, I really wanted to eat it all. Still, got an Indian feast to devour soon, life is indeed, quite wonderful

Hope you are well, is our wedding still on?

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rjt

Well I have had a salary increase so I am now a better prospect, still need to get a bit of weight off to get into a good suit though. Not sure our diets are compatable, I think Indian food is revolting but heh you could order Indian and I could order something else.

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Britannist

And like I said earlier in this thread, the more paper bags are used - the more trees will be needed. There is no point using more land to grow trees to make paper bags when a By-product in petroleum plants (which would otherwise go to waste and which requires no large land area to produce) is available to make plastic bags.

Soggy paper shopping bags breaking with glass food containers smashing in the street - no thanks.

Britannist

And "I don't know about you" but I would rather my environment be free not just of all litter - but also of busybodies trying to tell us what to do. If a supermarket wants to give out plastic bags free and the customers want those bags it has nothing to do with anyone else.

rjt

Precisely right, the government telling the supermarkets to start charging or they would intervene themselves is totally uneeded interference. It is also a nasty case of bullying.

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Britannist

That's what you have been told and/or read. It does not mean it is true. Since the plastic bag was invented only several decades ago it is not possible for anyone to claim that they do not degrade for up 1000 years.

There are lots of things which are manufactured now in huge numbers which could last longer than 1000 years. Do you want those banned too?

And, as I wrote earlier, the problem is not plastic bags - the problem is those people who choose to throw them in the street. And very few people do throw them in the street.

mkpdavies

I dug up an old pond the other day, which the people before me had put in place. They had put plastic bags under the proper lining. I doubt they had been there a 1000 years, but there wasn't much left of them.

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