The Australian newspaper article - Global Cooling!?

AlanA · 27-04-2008, 04:47 PM

Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh | The Australian

Come on you GW fanatics - what say you to this ?????

Clippo · 27-04-2008, 06:12 PM

This article has been severely panned in Deltoid :- Deltoid

Quote:

The Australian wasn't content to publish Phil Chapman's silly ice-age article, but also published a news story that treated it like a legitimate scientific paper. Now, instead of publishing a correction to Chapman's falsehoods from a climate scientist they have an article by Christopher Pearson. Even though it was the Australian which published Chapman's piece a few days earlier, almost half of Pearson's article was a quote or paraphrase of Chapman.

Pearson also gives the view of climate science you get from the Australian's bunker:
read on

and as you might expect it has spawned a rash of sceptics circulating it and claiming AGW is dead.

Believe this article & you (generalised) need medical treatment

Hint: Click the 'silly ice-age article' link in the quote and see what comments posters make of it

Poptech · 28-04-2008, 02:02 AM

No you simply need to pay attention to what is going on.

2006 - Russian Scientist Issues Global Cooling Warning (Russian News and Information Agency)
2006 - Short-Term Ocean Cooling Suggests Global Warming 'Speed Bump' (Science Daily)
2006 - The Coldest Year In The Last Five Years (The Reference Frame)
2007 - Canadian Professor: Prepare for Global Cooling (NewsMax)
2007 - Is 'global cooling' the real threat? (The Washington Times)
2007 - Year of Global Cooling (The Washington Times)
2007 - Coolest Winter Since 2001 For U.S., Globe, According To NOAA Data (Science Daily)
2008 - Solar Activity Diminishes; Researchers Predict Another Ice Age (DailyTech)
2008 - Forget global warming: Welcome to the new Ice Age (National Post, Canada)
2008 - Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling (DailyTech)
2008 - 4 sources say “globally cooler” in the past 12 months (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist)
2008 - The Oceans Have Stopped Warming! (Canada Free Press)
2008 - Global temperatures 'to decrease' (BBC)
2008 - The Antarctic deep sea gets colder (AAAS EurekAlert!)

AlanA · 28-04-2008, 07:35 AM

Nice one Poptech. Clippo is racing off for medical treatment as we speak !

Eurosceptic Atlanticist · 28-04-2008, 01:21 PM

Do you people ever read beyond the headlines?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC

Global temperatures for 2008 will be slightly cooler than last year as a result of the cold La Nina current in the Pacific, UN meteorologists have said.

The World Meteorological Organization's secretary-general, Michel Jarraud, told the BBC it was likely that La Nina would continue into the summer.

But this year's temperatures would still be way above the average - and we would soon exceed the record year of 1998 because of global warming induced by greenhouse gases.

That's from one of Poptech's precious links.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Global temperatures 'to decrease'

You've lost the debate on this. Global warming is happening.

Clippo · 28-04-2008, 01:25 PM

Even as much as you would wish it Alana, I don’t need treatment but I fear you may.

To save time, I suggest you read the only link in Poptech’s post probably considered reliable by most scientists i.e.
Coolest Winter Since 2001 For U.S., Globe, According To NOAA Data
(or the other science daily one)........

and I would be most grateful if you could pick out the bit where it says words to the effect that the GW phase is over and Global cooling is about to happen – I think I must have missed it.

(PS, by all means read the other links, most of which I have, and direct us to the original peer-reviewed papers that the oft repeated crackpot deniers quoted have published)

Poptech · 28-04-2008, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

Do you people ever read beyond the headlines?

That's from one of Poptech's precious links.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Global temperatures 'to decrease'

You've lost the debate on this. Global warming is happening.

Have I?

The BBC Changes News to Accommodate Activist
Before and After (Google Cache) - Wait for it...

I hate when I do that.

Poptech · 28-04-2008, 01:52 PM

Did I just prove BBC Bias again? My apologies...

BBC report finds bias within corporation (The Daily Telegraph, UK)

BBC viewers angered by its 'innate liberal bias' (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Confessions of a BBC liberal (The Times, UK)
We are biased, admit the stars of BBC News (Daily Mail, UK)

Hartlepool · 28-04-2008, 01:58 PM

This is a serious one,with two very large tropical/reef fish tanks totalling 100sq ft and 1.25 ft wide, are there any problems that MMGW/CC can cause the fish?

Eurosceptic Atlanticist · 28-04-2008, 01:59 PM

I'm not going to take a blog with e-mails that can easily be faked above accredited reports and news articles.

As for your cache link, again have you read it? Even the 'unaltered' version reads:

"But experts say we are still clearly in a long-term warming trend - and they forecast a new record high temperature within five years."

I'm also slightly suspicious of your animated GIF, because the editing time of the article hasn't changed between the 'old' and 'new' versions of the story.

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28-04-2008, 02:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
Poptech Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 124	No you simply need to pay attention to what is going on. 2006 - Russian Scientist Issues Global Cooling Warning (Russian News and Information Agency) 2006 - Short-Term Ocean Cooling Suggests Global Warming 'Speed Bump' (Science Daily) 2006 - The Coldest Year In The Last Five Years (The Reference Frame) 2007 - Canadian Professor: Prepare for Global Cooling (NewsMax) 2007 - Is 'global cooling' the real threat? (The Washington Times) 2007 - Year of Global Cooling (The Washington Times) 2007 - Coolest Winter Since 2001 For U.S., Globe, According To NOAA Data (Science Daily) 2008 - Solar Activity Diminishes; Researchers Predict Another Ice Age (DailyTech) 2008 - Forget global warming: Welcome to the new Ice Age (National Post, Canada) 2008 - Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling (DailyTech) 2008 - 4 sources say “globally cooler” in the past 12 months (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist) 2008 - The Oceans Have Stopped Warming! (Canada Free Press) 2008 - Global temperatures 'to decrease' (BBC) 2008 - The Antarctic deep sea gets colder (AAAS EurekAlert!)

28-04-2008, 07:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
AlanA Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bolton Posts: 170	Nice one Poptech. Clippo is racing off for medical treatment as we speak !

28-04-2008, 01:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Clippo Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,670	Even as much as you would wish it Alana, I don’t need treatment but I fear you may. To save time, I suggest you read the only link in Poptech’s post probably considered reliable by most scientists i.e. Coolest Winter Since 2001 For U.S., Globe, According To NOAA Data (or the other science daily one)........ and I would be most grateful if you could pick out the bit where it says words to the effect that the GW phase is over and Global cooling is about to happen – I think I must have missed it. (PS, by all means read the other links, most of which I have, and direct us to the original peer-reviewed papers that the oft repeated crackpot deniers quoted have published)

28-04-2008, 01:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
Poptech Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 124	Did I just prove BBC Bias again? My apologies... BBC report finds bias within corporation (The Daily Telegraph, UK) BBC viewers angered by its 'innate liberal bias' (The Daily Telegraph, UK) Confessions of a BBC liberal (The Times, UK) We are biased, admit the stars of BBC News (Daily Mail, UK)