CO2 levels & Methane increasing faster than ever

Clippo · 24-04-2008, 08:19 PM

This news report indicates CO2 levels at the end of 2007 were over 386 ppm and rising faster than ever compared to recent decades.
Similarly, with Methane although the last paragraph hints at another cause for Methane.

CO2, methane up sharply in 2007 | Environment | Reuters

Quote:

"It's gloomy," Tans said. "With carbon dioxide emissions, we're on the wrong track, it's obvious. And I'm also fully convinced that we're in actually quite a dangerous situation for climate."

Akria · 24-04-2008, 08:39 PM

Given the increasingly unstable state of the oceanic methane clathrates, we might have an incredibly dangerous situation with the climate.

BenjC · 24-04-2008, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clippo

This news report indicates CO2 levels at the end of 2007 were over 386 ppm and rising faster than ever compared to recent decades.
Similarly, with Methane although the last paragraph hints at another cause for Methane.

CO2, methane up sharply in 2007 | Environment | Reuters

"faster than ever compared to recent decades"

What we have here boys and girls is Clippo demonstrating a perfect example of the language used by environmental scaremongers to try and make things look much worse than they are.

Something can't rise faster than ever compared to recent decades, the way it is said here gives the impression that CO2 levels have never risen faster which is not something that is mentioned anywhere in the article.

mkpdavies · 24-04-2008, 09:29 PM

Blimey are we still below 400. It's still a tiny trace gas that the planet could do with having a lot more of then.

Clippo · 25-04-2008, 08:47 AM

Benj wrote:-

Quote:

"faster than ever compared to recent decades"

What we have here boys and girls is Clippo demonstrating a perfect example of the language used by environmental scaremongers to try and make things look much worse than they are.

Something can't rise faster than ever compared to recent decades, the way it is said here gives the impression that CO2 levels have never risen faster which is not something that is mentioned anywhere in the article.

Ok Mr Picky, I wrote this hurriedly and may not have have expressed it perfectly. Now read the article again and comment on the the accuracy of the following extract :-

Quote:

"The average (annual rise) over the last five or six years has been 2 ppm and that is actually steeper than it has been in previous decades," he said. "This whole decade the rate of increase has accelerated, and we have a very clear candidate (for the cause) and that's emissions from burning fossil fuels."

How would you have put it in a post ?

g hall · 25-04-2008, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akria

Given the increasingly unstable state of the oceanic methane clathrates, we might have an incredibly dangerous situation with the climate.

To the Batcave boy wonder

g hall · 25-04-2008, 02:29 PM

So all that cutting back ain't working so what is causing it then oh high priest of Gore and MMGW

24-04-2008, 08:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
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24-04-2008, 09:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,615	Blimey are we still below 400. It's still a tiny trace gas that the planet could do with having a lot more of then. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

25-04-2008, 02:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
g hall Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,760	So all that cutting back ain't working so what is causing it then oh high priest of Gore and MMGW __________________ "That government is best which governs least." "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries". "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful."

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