Climate change 'may put world at war'

Ian C · 23-04-2008, 11:28 AM

Climate change 'may put world at war'
From the 'Graph

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Climate change could cause global conflicts as large as the two world wars but lasting for centuries unless the problem is controlled, a leading defence think tank has warned.

The Royal United Services Institute said a tenfold increase in research spending, comparable to the amount spent on the Apollo space programme, will be needed if the world is to avoid the worst effects of changing temperatures.

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The report said: "If climate change is not slowed and critical environmental thresholds are exceeded, then it will become a primary driver of conflicts between and within states."

BenjC · 23-04-2008, 03:44 PM

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The Royal United Services Institute said a tenfold increase in research spending, comparable to the amount spent on the Apollo space programme, will be needed if the world is to avoid the worst effects of changing temperatures.

Give us MONEY!!!!!

Let's read the report to find out how they came to these conclusions..... oh wait we have to PAY for it.....

mkpdavies · 23-04-2008, 03:48 PM

I'm scared. Quick, have all my money and freedoms to protect me.

Britannist · 23-04-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian C

Climate change 'may put world at war'

There has always been climate change since the beginning of the World - does that mean that all previous wars around the globe are the result of warming?

I've heard of 'heated arguments' - but there are many who will say that this claim (in the article on the link in the first posting to this thread) is taking things a bit far...

Clippo · 24-04-2008, 08:09 PM

You still have the capacity to surprise me Britannist. Based on your previous behaviour and expressed nationalistic views, I would have thought you would have taken notice of what the Royal United Services Institute has to say. For example, from Wiki:-
Royal United Services Institute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
RUSI describes itself as
“ the leading forum in the UK for national and international Defence and Security ”

You wrote:-

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There has always been climate change since the beginning of the World - does that mean that all previous wars around the globe are the result of warming?

There has and no, not all.

But I suspect if you closely examine some of the reasons for some of the previous wars you will find and ‘aggressor looking for resources’ or one group denying resources’ to another group.

In the case of AGW, a possible scenarios are shortages of food due to desertification, lack of water from Climate changes and aggressive migration.

I know that the CIA studied these scenarios years ago, so we must presume other national defence agencies have done the same.

I accept it isn’t a ‘war’ in the usual sense, but many historians consider adverse climatic shifts affecting food production was a major factor in initiating the French Revolution ( let them eat cake ?)

Britannist · 24-04-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Clippo

You still have the capacity to surprise me Britannist. Based on your previous behaviour and expressed nationalistic views....

I haven't got a clue what you are on about (i.e. your odd claims quoted above - "previous behaviour" and "nationalist views").

Clippo · 25-04-2008, 08:51 AM

Britannist wrote:-

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I haven't got a clue what you are on about (i.e. your odd claims quoted above - "previous behaviour" and "nationalist views").

They say one can't see oneself as others see one

How about commenting on the possibility of Wars resulting from Climate Change ?

Hartlepool · 25-04-2008, 09:27 AM

How about clipo just buzzes off and promotes his own stuff instead of giving out instructions to others to do so?

Poptech · 25-04-2008, 11:58 AM

This has been debunked in a recent study

No Connection Between Environmental Crises And Armed Conflict, New Study Argues (Science Daily)

Clippo please do not reference Wikipedia again before I really embarrass you.

Hartlepool · 25-04-2008, 12:44 PM

Poptech,clipo has been told about the Wiki Washy site before,I think he puts too much faith in it seeing as a lot of it is junk added by plonkers and jokers.

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Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,574	How about clipo just buzzes off and promotes his own stuff instead of giving out instructions to others to do so?

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Poptech Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 124	This has been debunked in a recent study No Connection Between Environmental Crises And Armed Conflict, New Study Argues (Science Daily) Clippo please do not reference Wikipedia again before I really embarrass you.

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Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,574	Poptech,clipo has been told about the Wiki Washy site before,I think he puts too much faith in it seeing as a lot of it is junk added by plonkers and jokers.