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Old 22-03-2008, 12:50 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I have no problem with wind power and see it as a useful contributor to an overall energy sufficient power that Britian needs to become if it is to survive as an independent state. Saying turbines are "ugly" is childish and stupid and adds zero to the debate on an issue that is crucial to Britain's future independence, especially once we dump the EU.
On your point about the aesthetics of wind turbines, some people consider them ugly, others don't - eye of the beholder as I have said a number of times. I suppose you could make the same point about coal-fired power stations.

Sure, wind an other renewables make a contribution, albeit pretty small.
Even if greatly expanded, the problem of variability is a major issue.
While there is bulk generating capacity (mostly from fossils) that variability can be accommodated up to a point.
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Thanks for that spaman,anyone with other links,please post.
Try the BWEA site?
Certainly, it is bound to be biased in favour of wind energy but there could be stats for specific wind turbine sites.
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I was in Doncaster on Friday, and on the way from there to Goole I saw several wind turbines.
They were spinning quite happily.
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It is now 22 days since any production was forthcoming from the 3 windturbines in my area.
Local conditions are changeable,from light to heavy winds,rain,sleet and sunshine like today.
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Try the BWEA site?
Certainly, it is bound to be biased in favour of wind energy but there could be stats for specific wind turbine sites.

Besoeker,I tried that site you mention which is quite up to date and I post below for viewing.
BWEA - UKWED Operational wind farms

It was very interesting to see that up to January this year(2008) the United Kingdom has 1966 Wind Turbines in operation.

Scrutiny shows that Eng,NI,Wales have 51.4% of these between them.

Further scrutiny shows that Scotland has 48.6% of these Wind Turbines.

A further look shows that this pro Scotland and anti England Labour Government has added 706 Turbines to Scotlands 66 Turbines since it came to power.

Scotland has enough Turbines to supply 660,509 of its homes.

Anyone can see that by 2010 Scotland will have enough Turbines to cover all its homes,and,perhaps that has been Labours target since day one.

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Population of UK 61,000,000.(Approx)

Eng,Population 51,300,000, with 697 Turbines = enough for 408,628 Homes.

NI Population 1,700,000,with 144 Turbines = enough for 85,611 homes.

Scotland,Population 5,100,000,with772 Turbines = enough for 660,509 homes.

Wales,Population 2,900,000,with 353 Turbines = enough for 204,146 homes.

Obviously,once again, the rest of the UK is being covertly used to support Scotland.

Regardless of Nationality,every single MP should be ashamed of this theft,especially the English ones.

Note,I don't know if all of this has gone completely onnoticed but I can not find a similar report to the one above anywhere else at all.

I will now be digging deeper into the hole instead of stopping like some on here would like.

At the continuing rate of improvement in the way the Scots are subsidised by the rest of the UK,one wonders if perhaps they will all return back to their hames up north, soonish.

Nahhh,it looks like Scotlands honour,reliability and friendship have all gone out of the window, or been completely covered over by its pure greed.

Scotland the Brave indeed?

Not any more it seems.

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WTF?
How did you manage to turn the mere fact that Scotland has a disproportionate number of wind turbines into a rant against the Scottish and the Government?

What's the average windspeed in Scotland, and how well suited is it to wind energy production?

Edit: also, 'further scrutiny'? Please! It's a matter of simple mathematics, surely!
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This scottish loving,English hating Labour Government is moving the UK Taxpayers hard earned cash into scotland by the truckload each and every day.

Why should the 56 million of Englang,NI and Wales have to continue to say nothing while this Government steals their taxes to pass on to the scotch?

The porridge gobblers up there, and all those milking us down here, are hardly likely to blow the whistle on their regular under the counter ill gotten gains,are they?

Besides that,the facts are there for all to see,all those that is, who don't have the greedy green eyed scotchie money monster inside them.

You wanted devolution,well,you got it.now comes the hard part,PAY FOR IT YOURSELVES, WITH SCOTCHIE SACRIFICES.
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It was very interesting to see that up to January this year(2008) the United Kingdom has 1966 Wind Turbines in operation.

I’m pleased that you found the site informative.

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Scrutiny shows that Eng,NI,Wales have 51.4% of these between them.
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Further scrutiny shows that Scotland has 48.6% of these Wind Turbines.
No doubt, even further scrutiny would reveal that, for the most part, wind turbines are located in windy places.

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Population of UK 61,000,000.(Approx)

Eng,Population 51,300,000, with 697 Turbines = enough for 408,628 Homes.
NI Population 1,700,000,with 144 Turbines = enough for 85,611 homes.
Scotland,Population 5,100,000,with772 Turbines = enough for 660,509 homes.
Wales,Population 2,900,000,with 353 Turbines = enough for 204,146 homes.
Obviously,once again, the rest of the UK is being covertly used to support Scotland.

Taking your figures at face value would imply that citing a wind turbine in Scotland is 50% more effective than citing one in England.


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At the continuing rate of improvement in the way the Scots are subsidised by the rest of the UK,…


NE England gets about 11% above UK average public expenditure.
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Besoeker,I tried that site you mention which is quite up to date and I post below for viewing.
BWEA - UKWED Operational wind farms

It was very interesting to see that up to January this year(2008) the United Kingdom has 1966 Wind Turbines in operation.

Scrutiny shows that Eng,NI,Wales have 51.4% of these between them.

Further scrutiny shows that Scotland has 48.6% of these Wind Turbines.

A further look shows that this pro Scotland and anti England Labour Government has added 706 Turbines to Scotlands 66 Turbines since it came to power.

Scotland has enough Turbines to supply 660,509 of its homes.

Anyone can see that by 2010 Scotland will have enough Turbines to cover all its homes,and,perhaps that has been Labours target since day one.

Data.

Population of UK 61,000,000.(Approx)

Eng,Population 51,300,000, with 697 Turbines = enough for 408,628 Homes.

NI Population 1,700,000,with 144 Turbines = enough for 85,611 homes.

Scotland,Population 5,100,000,with772 Turbines = enough for 660,509 homes.

Wales,Population 2,900,000,with 353 Turbines = enough for 204,146 homes.

Obviously,once again, the rest of the UK is being covertly used to support Scotland.

Regardless of Nationality,every single MP should be ashamed of this theft,especially the English ones.

Note,I don't know if all of this has gone completely onnoticed but I can not find a similar report to the one above anywhere else at all.

I will now be digging deeper into the hole instead of stopping like some on here would like.

At the continuing rate of improvement in the way the Scots are subsidised by the rest of the UK,one wonders if perhaps they will all return back to their hames up north, soonish.

Nahhh,it looks like Scotlands honour,reliability and friendship have all gone out of the window, or been completely covered over by its pure greed.

Scotland the Brave indeed?

Not any more it seems.

Wales and NI combined populations of 4,600,000 are only 500,000 less than scotlands,yet,scotland has an extra 275 Turbines installed there.

Also,the population of the UK 61,000,000 of which England,NI and Wales make up 55,900,000 and scotland 5,100,000 shows that scotlands population is only 8.36% of the UK population,with England,NI and Wales being 91.64% of the UK population.

Yet,scotland,with only 8.36% of the UK population have been allocated 49% of all Turbines installed thanks to this scottish controlled Labour Government.

The MPs from England should be sorely ashamed for allowing such covert preferential treatment as this to be given to scotland.
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