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[quote=Phil Sheldon;470745]Hold hard Sunbeam!
You now have to quantify your statement. Please provide any evidence/facts and/or statements to show the output of a wind turbine in isolation QUOTE] I have neither the time nor the inclination to engage at this level. Do your own research, the question you pose is pretty basic. I suggest, however, that you stay away from 'www.conspiracytheoriesRus.com' and other garbage of that ilk. |
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Scotland cannot rely totally on it being windy in order to get a 24 hour electricity supply to all homes, to industry, to light motorways and to keep hospitals running.
Even if it is windy - it is often TOO windy for wind turbine eyesores to work. |
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They (Wind watchermacallits) are a very poor attempt to try and convince us they (government) are going all greeny . As previously stated they do not produce any significant power .They are also high maintanance,another council employee on 40 K
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There are so many reasons to oppose the wind turbine eyesores - one of them being the fact that the EU/UK Government is forcing electricity suppliers to build them: something which pushes up our electricity bills.
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The Danes seem to have made wind generation a profitable business...
"In 2006, the price reduction on electricity delivered by the wind turbines exceeded the amount that the consumers paid for the PSO via the electricity bill. Wind has therefore become a surplus business for the consumers,"says Project Manager Svend Enevoldsen, IBT Wind, University of Aarhus. "Denmark is the leading wind power nation in the world. The Danes were pioneers in developing commercial wind power during the 1970's and today almost half of the wind turbines all over the world are produced by Danish manufacturers. The wind industry is a very important business in Denmark, with wind manufacturing activity bringing about 3 billion Euro into the Danish economy and employing 20,000 people. Wind power is also important in Denmark because it is a green, clean and renewable energy. Scandinavians are known for their advanced environmental policies, and wind power has given the Danes a way to reduce their dependency on polluting fuels: 20% of Denmark's electricity consumption is covered by clean electricity produced at Danish wind farms. At times, wind power supply is able to cover the total electricity consumption of the whole west of Denmark. The Danish wind power industry is the world's largest. 90% of the wind turbines manufactured in Denmark is sold to the international markets. In 2003, the Danish manufacturers had a total world market share of approximately 38%, generating a combined turnover of almost 3 billion Euro and maintaining over 20,000 people employed in the industry, from wind turbine factories to maintenance and research". Interesting to note that the "unrealistic" target of 20% generation from renewables has already been acheived in Denmark from one source alone - wind turbines! |
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A record 20,000 megawatts (MW) of wind power were installed worldwide in 2007, with the United States, Spain and China providing the biggest annual increases, bringing world-wide installed capacity to 94,112 MW.
This is an increase of 31 percent compared with the 2006 market, and represents an overall increase in global installed capacity of about 27 percent. “The growth rates we are experiencing in wind energy continue to exceed our most optimistic expectations,” said GWEC Secretary General Steve Sawyer in a statement posted on the Brussels-based industry lobby’s website. “Globally, wind energy has become a mainstream energy source and an important player in the world’s energy markets, and it now contributes to the energy mix in more than 70 countries across the globe.” The US reported a record 5,244 MW installed in 2007, more than double the 2006 figure, accounting for about 30 percent of the country’s new power-producing capacity in 2007. Overall US wind power generating capacity grew 45 percent in 2007, with total installed capacity now standing at 16.8 GW. It can be expected that the US will overtake Germany as the leader on wind energy by the end of 2009. “This is the third consecutive year of record-setting growth, establishing wind power as one of the largest sources of new electricity supply for the country,” said AWEA Executive Director Randall Swisher. “This remarkable and accelerating growth is driven by strong demand, favourable economics, and a period of welcome relief from the on-again, off-again, boom-and-bust, cycle of the federal production tax credit (PTC) for wind power.” China added 3,449 MW of wind energy capacity in added during this year, representing market growth of 156 percent over 2006, and now ranks fifth in installed wind energy capacity with over 6,000 MW at the end of 2007. Based on current growth rates, the Chinese Renewable Energy Industry Association (CREIA) forecasts a capacity of around 50,000 MW by 2015. The big surprise in the European market was Spain with 3,515 MW of new capacity installed in 2007, earning it second place globally after the US. Total installed wind energy capacity now stands at over 15 GW in Spain. The capacity of new wind turbines brought on line across Europe last year was 8,662 MW. Total wind power capacity installed by the end of 2007 reached 57,135 MW and will avoid about 90 million tonnes of CO2 annually and produce 119 TWh in an average wind year. “It is positive that wind energy is now increasing more than any other power technology in Europe, making up 40 percent of total new power installations,” according to Christian Kjaer, EWEA Chief Executive. While Europe remains the leading market for wind energy, new installations represented just 43 percent of the global total, down from nearly 75 percent in 2004. For the first time in decades, more than 50 percent of the annual wind market was outside Europe, and this trend is likely to continue into the future. While Europe, North America and Asia continue to see the most important additions to their wind energy capacity, the Middle East/North Africa region increased its wind power installations by 42 percent, reaching 534 MW at the end of 2007. New capacity was added in Egypt, Morocco, Iran and Tunisia. The top five countries in terms of installed capacity are Germany (22.3 GW), the US (16.8 GW), Spain (15.1 GW), India (8 GW) and China (6.1 GW). |
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Cool!
Get the Danes in to install this for our energy companies then seeing as they are this great! No more subsidies = less taxation! Excellent!
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Yes, Denmark leads on wind turbine production. But Denmark's homes, factories, offices, shops, hospitals, centres of education, military sites and motorways cannot rely on wind power around the clock because the turbines do not work for the majority of the time and wind levels are often too weak or too strong to turn the blades of the wind turbine eyesores. The same applies in every other country of the world.
Wind turbine electricity costs a great deal - thus pushing up prices in Denmark (and admirable nation, of course - but an expensive one for many, too). We should keep nuclear as the main source of electricity generation here and supplement our electricity supply in the UK with solar and hydro power and not with these ugly and inefficient wind turbines. |
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The Danes will be doing the installing, and we Brits will be paying for it, because they developed the technology, and they have all the patents. Do you not see that we are falling behind in every respect because of bad and outdated governance? We have an outdated and dogmatic obsession with 'the free market', our EU neighbours have progress and technological superiority. Wake up!!!! |
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