More on negative effects of Biofuels :-

Clippo · 07-02-2008, 06:46 PM

Another analysis of the ‘carbon debt’ in producing bio-fuels is critical of their real value:-

Biofuels emissions may be 'worse than petrol' - earth - 07 February 2008 - New Scientist Environment

The full article:-
Climate Change - The True Cost of Biofuels

Roland · 07-02-2008, 07:15 PM

Clippo.

Do you drive a car?

Do you use electricity?

Do you use cleaning products such as bleach?

If the answer is yes to any of these questions can you please stop pushing the environmental issue as you have no right. You are a hypocrite and should lead the life you preach.

Do you live in the woods in an eco house?

Do you grow your own organic food?

If the answer to these is yes do you have opinions on any other subject other than global warming.

Ian C · 07-02-2008, 07:50 PM

What's your problem Roland ??

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Do you drive a car?

I use the train where possible which uses diesel or electric depending which service is used.

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stop pushing the environmental issue as you have no right. You are a hypocrite and should lead the life you preach

How about less 2 faced attitudes all round and more sensible discussions.
The New Scientist appears to have a far better approach than some of the contributors on this site.

rjt · 08-02-2008, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Roland

Clippo.

Do you drive a car?

Do you use electricity?

Do you use cleaning products such as bleach?

If the answer is yes to any of these questions can you please stop pushing the environmental issue as you have no right. You are a hypocrite and should lead the life you preach.

Do you live in the woods in an eco house?

Do you grow your own organic food?

If the answer to these is yes do you have opinions on any other subject other than global warming.

You have hit the nail on the head. He does have other opinons, he says he does not like the EU, then he says he will support partys that support it!

Clippo · 08-02-2008, 07:14 AM

rjt wrote:-

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You have hit the nail on the head. He does have other opinons, he says he does not like the EU, then he says he will support partys that support it!

Where did I say that !!!!!

rjt · 08-02-2008, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Clippo

rjt wrote:-

Where did I say that !!!!!

You have made it clear on many occasions by your prouncements on British politics, you also praised the strength of the British Economy this week! What did/ do you do for a living, are you a court jester or a spin DR for the Labour movement, actually there is not much diffrence between the two so it makes little diffrence. At every turn you spout the establishment line and betray what you really think as well as expressing contempt for any view apart form your own.

You Sir have been rumbled.

rjt · 08-02-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rjt

You have made it clear on many occasions by your prouncements on British politics, you also praised the strength of the British Economy this week! What did/ do you do for a living, are you a court jester or a spin DR for the Labour movement, actually there is not much diffrence between the two so it makes little diffrence. At every turn you spout the establishment line and betray what you really think as well as expressing contempt for any view apart form your own.

You Sir have been rumbled.

Home Repossessions Up As People Default On Mortgages |Sky News|Business

Just thought I would ammend the post and add a little something about our prosperous ecnomy which would be under more strain if Saint Al, the EU and the other prophets of doom in our establsihment get there way.

rjt · 08-02-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rjt

You have made it clear on many occasions by your prouncements on British politics, you also praised the strength of the British Economy this week! What did/ do you do for a living, are you a court jester or a spin DR for the Labour movement, actually there is not much diffrence between the two so it makes little diffrence. At every turn you spout the establishment line and betray what you really think as well as expressing contempt for any view apart form your own.

You Sir have been rumbled.

Home Repossessions Up As People Default On Mortgages |Sky News|Business

Just thought I would add to the previous post and add a little something about our prosperous ecnomy which would be under more strain if Saint Al, the EU and the other prophets of doom in our establsihment get there way.

Clippo · 08-02-2008, 07:45 PM

rjt wrote:-

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You have hit the nail on the head. He does have other opinons, he says he does not like the EU, then he says he will support partys that support it!

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Originally Posted by Clippo
rjt wrote:-

Where did I say that !!!!!

You have made it clear on many occasions by your prouncements on British politics, you also praised the strength of the British Economy this week!

No I haven’t. With respect to the British economy I stated that it has remained one of the strongest in Europe despite your paranoid claims.

You repeatedly accuse others of opinions that you assume they have – well, the game’s up, I’m holding you to account.

So now please retract your false allegations – or find a specific posting where “ I will support partys (sic) that support it (EU)”

Prove your allegations against me or apologise !!

rjt · 09-02-2008, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Clippo

rjt wrote:-

No I haven’t. With respect to the British economy I stated that it has remained one of the strongest in Europe despite your paranoid claims.

You repeatedly accuse others of opinions that you assume they have – well, the game’s up, I’m holding you to account.

So now please retract your false allegations – or find a specific posting where “ I will support partys (sic) that support it (EU)”

Prove your allegations against me or apologise !!

Do not be so riddiculous. How can an ecnonomy based on debt with repossesions at a 10 years high taxation rising all the time, banks having to be subisdised by the tax payer be one of the strongest in Europe. You are basing your figure on the propaganda put out by the Europhile elite who run this country, hardly suprising as you are one of them.

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Roland Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 857	Clippo. Do you drive a car? Do you use electricity? Do you use cleaning products such as bleach? If the answer is yes to any of these questions can you please stop pushing the environmental issue as you have no right. You are a hypocrite and should lead the life you preach. Do you live in the woods in an eco house? Do you grow your own organic food? If the answer to these is yes do you have opinions on any other subject other than global warming.