making carbon markets work

Clippo · 13-12-2007, 08:10 PM

For the serious ones here here is an in depth article from the Scientific American about carbon trading.
Making Carbon Markets Work (extended version): Scientific American

(Sorry, it's too difficult to understand for you Britannist, rjt, mpkdavies ........and anyway you all think it's a scam so best ignore what the real world is trying to do about AGW)

mkpdavies · 13-12-2007, 08:15 PM

Take the i out of the URL and it's about right.

tito · 13-12-2007, 11:26 PM

End of the world or not, carbon trading is wrong. It is incompatible with a free society.

Clippo · 14-12-2007, 07:54 AM

tito wrote:-

Quote:

End of the world or not, carbon trading is wrong. It is incompatible with a free society.

Strange ! - I read it and distinctly saw that there is a flourishing free market in carbon credits

John Carter · 14-12-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Clippo

Strange ! - I read it and distinctly saw that there is a flourishing free market in carbon credits

With Al Gore owning investments in one or more of the companies doing the offsetting.

Clippo · 14-12-2007, 12:30 PM

John Carter,
You're obviously missing out on a good earner here. I hope I don't detect any sour grapes.

tito · 14-12-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Clippo

tito wrote:-

Strange ! - I read it and distinctly saw that there is a flourishing free market in carbon credits

There is no such thing as carbon credits! They aren't a commodity or a service, they are a slight removal of state control for a price.

Free, in case you haven't been paying attention, means the government has nothing to do with carbon emissions.

mkpdavies · 14-12-2007, 07:19 PM

About as free as the Mafia's insurance services.

Britannist · 14-12-2007, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clippo

Sorry, it's too difficult to understand for you Britannist, rjt, mpkdavies ........

No need to be sarcastic Clippo. People understand - but perhaps you do not understand that they understand.

We understand that there is no evidence that humans are mostly responsible for alleged climate change.

rjt · 15-12-2007, 07:22 AM

What I have said is that nothing is yet proven and that much more research needs to be done, so again it is Clippo who does not understand.

But what Clippo has to understand is that the key question here is one of democracy, how is Britian to take decisions in its National intrest on this matter when enviromental matters as are many others are taken not by HOC but by Brussels.

I would say to Clippo, If Gordon Brown brought in a Climate Change Bill exactly in line with what you wanted to see would you endorse the Brown Government at the next Election. In fact if you would not mind sharing it with us what will you do at the ballet box next time.

13-12-2007, 08:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
Clippo Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cheshire Posts: 2,089	making carbon markets work For the serious ones here here is an in depth article from the Scientific American about carbon trading. Making Carbon Markets Work (extended version): Scientific American (Sorry, it's too difficult to understand for you Britannist, rjt, mpkdavies ........and anyway you all think it's a scam so best ignore what the real world is trying to do about AGW)

13-12-2007, 08:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	Take the i out of the URL and it's about right. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

14-12-2007, 07:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	About as free as the Mafia's insurance services. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

15-12-2007, 07:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,292	What I have said is that nothing is yet proven and that much more research needs to be done, so again it is Clippo who does not understand. But what Clippo has to understand is that the key question here is one of democracy, how is Britian to take decisions in its National intrest on this matter when enviromental matters as are many others are taken not by HOC but by Brussels. I would say to Clippo, If Gordon Brown brought in a Climate Change Bill exactly in line with what you wanted to see would you endorse the Brown Government at the next Election. In fact if you would not mind sharing it with us what will you do at the ballet box next time. __________________ Mr Delors said that he wanted the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the community, The Commission to be The Executive and The Council Of Ministers The Senate. NO! NO! NO! (Margaret Thatcher 30 Oct 1990) Ignore List: The Prophets of ST Al the Unelectable.

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14-12-2007, 12:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
Clippo Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cheshire Posts: 2,089	John Carter, You're obviously missing out on a good earner here. I hope I don't detect any sour grapes.