Threat of extinctions with GW

Clippo · 12-11-2007, 08:59 PM

Good article based on current science:-

Climate change to threaten a third of wildlife - Telegraph

I like the the very last paragraph (although I urge you to read the whole piece)

Quote:

Keith Allott, of WWF UK, said: "The public is encouraged to think by climate sceptics in the media that the IPCC is a highly political body determined to assert an alarming view of climate change. The reality is the opposite."

mkpdavies · 12-11-2007, 09:22 PM

Those guys at the World Wrestling Federation are usualy right wing too! What happened?

g hall · 14-11-2007, 11:35 AM

Until we had MMGW NOTHING ever became extinct did it

gc · 23-11-2007, 08:32 PM

The rate by which extinctions have moved ahead of the background rate appears alarming, and does suggest that we are in the early days of a mass extinction. The real worry is that what are known as 'R species', things like bugs and flies, some fish, mushrooms, etc, adapt really quickly, evolving new sub-species in just a few generations. Cockroaches don't have much to fear from a mass extinction.

'k species', what we might consider to be more complex creatures, can't adapt quickly, and tend to be wiped out by whatever precipitates a mass extinction. Dinosaurs were 'k species'. So is Homo Sapiens.....

AlanA · 24-11-2007, 08:07 AM

With any luck, the mass extinctions threatened will include all the PC, Multi-cultural, do-gooding jobsworth's we have in our society.
I wonder if Clippo is under threat ?

Clippo · 24-11-2007, 10:16 AM

AlanA wrote:-

Quote:

With any luck, the mass extinctions threatened will include all the PC, Multi-cultural, do-gooding jobsworth's we have in our society.
I wonder if Clippo is under threat ?

Another pratt comment from this poster. Are you getting lessons from mpkd & g hall?

Aardvark · 24-11-2007, 11:44 AM

...but what if nationalism, racism, patriotism are regressive genes? The world could end up run by the PC brigade.

Man made extinctions are actually a real threat, whether it be by global warming or sheer lunacy (farewell to the Black Rhino in Zimbabwe - lost to idiocy). The balance of nature is distorted and whilst bugs might regenerate many species that are localised or thinly spread will disappear for ever. The loss of the wolf, beaver, boar, puma/mountain lion, pine marten (this century) and native raptors have created an imbalance in our country. Badgers and foxes are thriving without any predators. The fluffy bunny brigade are up in arms whenever contol is mentioned and we now have mink, rabbit, grey squirrel, brown rat etc roaming widely in our country. This in only a relatively short period of time.

A change in climate, man made or otherwise, will exacerbate problems and we shold be careful not to criticise those who think long and hard about the potential problems and look for solutions.

Clippo · 24-11-2007, 04:03 PM

Aardvark wrote:-

Quote:

A change in climate, man made or otherwise, will exacerbate problems and we shold be careful not to criticise those who think long and hard about the potential problems and look for solutions.

I agree, (but far too sensible an attitude for some others on this sub-forum !!!)

mkpdavies · 24-11-2007, 05:12 PM

Preparing for possible problems is not a bad idea. Using the perceived notion of threat to impose fascism or steal money is.

Alex McKee · 24-11-2007, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanA

With any luck, the mass extinctions threatened will include all the PC, Multi-cultural, do-gooding jobsworth's we have in our society.
I wonder if Clippo is under threat ?

Stick to debating the facts, not the members of this forum.

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Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,926	...but what if nationalism, racism, patriotism are regressive genes? The world could end up run by the PC brigade. Man made extinctions are actually a real threat, whether it be by global warming or sheer lunacy (farewell to the Black Rhino in Zimbabwe - lost to idiocy). The balance of nature is distorted and whilst bugs might regenerate many species that are localised or thinly spread will disappear for ever. The loss of the wolf, beaver, boar, puma/mountain lion, pine marten (this century) and native raptors have created an imbalance in our country. Badgers and foxes are thriving without any predators. The fluffy bunny brigade are up in arms whenever contol is mentioned and we now have mink, rabbit, grey squirrel, brown rat etc roaming widely in our country. This in only a relatively short period of time. A change in climate, man made or otherwise, will exacerbate problems and we shold be careful not to criticise those who think long and hard about the potential problems and look for solutions. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

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23-11-2007, 08:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
gc Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 565	The rate by which extinctions have moved ahead of the background rate appears alarming, and does suggest that we are in the early days of a mass extinction. The real worry is that what are known as 'R species', things like bugs and flies, some fish, mushrooms, etc, adapt really quickly, evolving new sub-species in just a few generations. Cockroaches don't have much to fear from a mass extinction. 'k species', what we might consider to be more complex creatures, can't adapt quickly, and tend to be wiped out by whatever precipitates a mass extinction. Dinosaurs were 'k species'. So is Homo Sapiens.....

24-11-2007, 08:07 AM	#5 (permalink)
AlanA Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bolton Posts: 199	With any luck, the mass extinctions threatened will include all the PC, Multi-cultural, do-gooding jobsworth's we have in our society. I wonder if Clippo is under threat ?