Baron von Lotsov

I know propaganda when I listen to it and even if I did a scientific assessment I would get back the same conclusion. Points in favour/points against. The time spent on the defence of the BBC accusations, the use of mood music to bias people emotionally and so on. It was just so blatant that I could hardly believe it was the BBC and that is the honest truth. It was complete brainwashing.

mkpdavies

I can't even watch the BBC anymore. Not just this issue, but almost any issue has such blatant bias and worse, propaganda techniques that I have to turn over.

The fact they force me to pay for this ****, or I can't watch other channels just adds insult to injury.

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AlanA

The BBC Breakfast Show is one that really gets up my nose. Everyday (without exception), they raise completely asinine issues of one form or another, then wheel out some do-gooder or other from a completely non-descript, not to mention totally unknown, organisation. Then, they try to have some kind of debate on the subject !
It's enough to drive any sane man stark raving mad.
Why don't the BBC report on the NEWS anymore ? Instead, they content themselves by trying to create some news from uninteresting subjects.
Meanwhile, Mugabe continues his dictatorship, people continue to die in Sudan and Somalia, there is a 7.7 Richter scale earthquake in Chile etc etc etc, and we receive very little information at all on these REAL subjects.

g hall

The BBC Breakfast show needs a good kick up its collective **** it's just trying to be so touchy feely matey and it's complete and utter b0ll0cks and a waste of my tax pounds

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Baron von Lotsov

Well this is what has changed in the last hundred years or so. The psychologists have a better form of brainwashing now. In the beginning the brainwashing was more of that traditional military type where if someone didn't follow instructions they got whacked. Now they have found that even though this is effective there is a better and more effective way and that is characterised by the 'touchy feely'.

I'm serious; this is what they are doing in every council, every government department, and every work training scheme. It is the new way and is far more deadly than people would imagine. Indeed this is exactly why it is so effective because the victim does not raise their defences, they literally have no idea they are being brainwashed and the brainwashing is such that it trains the victim to seek more of it, it even creates a sense of euphoria when one brainwashed victim is receiving on message information. This encourages group behaviour and so on.

To say the new brainwashing is sophisticated is an understatement. The BBC are very professional, world leaders but for all the wrong reasons. I mean the establishment is not stupid where it counts; they feign stupidity on purpose much of the time as it serves as a useful cover. The BBC is more likely to be run by MI5/6.

Gramboy2

I stopped watching the Breakfast news some time ago for exactly the reasons mentioned above.

Never have so many important issues been ignored with so much skill.

Apart from Packsman the BBC has no one to say boo to a goose. Gov't ministers are asked no penetrating questions and are given free reign to preach to the viewers.

Sad days indeed.

g hall

And as for GMTV - youd think Ben Shepard had a common purpose (nudge nudge wink wink)

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Baron von Lotsov

The Busy Bee Bee C have been at it again guys. Here is a perfect model of Royal Charter correctness and a model for all journalists in unbalanced reporting. This guy is destined for promotion for sure.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Climate: In praise of scepticism

Not even the title is the truth on this one!

Baron von Lotsov

The latest gibberish from the IPCC if you are interested.


Now this is the kind of science you are taught at secondary school. Do you remember putting water in test tubes and heating it up and seeing what happens when it freezes? Ah but it is a very important "finding" according to the BBC/IPCC. Just think of that, since 1991 they have had all this time and all of a sudden they find out something that is taught in schools! Mad

Anthony Smithee

I believe that you are referring to the expansion of water as it freezes; they are referring to its expansion as it warms (after the period when it contracts, but that is a relatively low temperature range anyway), and are stating that due to the thermal inertia of the ocean systems additional warming is expected even if the supposed cause of the warming, primarily CO2, is no longer emitted, and thus the seas will continue to decrease in density and thus expand.

It is a finding because it is not talking about the silly little test tubes played with in schools; the amount of water in those would have relatively little thermal inertia. The amount in the oceans has a considerably larger amount of inertia, but it is difficult to estimate just how much more so. That an estimate has been made and a figure for continued rise in sea levels is actually a rather good application of scientific principles, although I continue to disagree with them on the cause of the recent warming.