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Old 06-09-2007, 04:04 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:23 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Post #43 in ‘AGW message getting thro’ & post #70 in ‘can science save the world’ seem quite offensive and don't asdd value to the debate.

The author, EUSSR, in 2 previous posts in the latter thread spews out rubbish about trolls etc – perhaps he is one ? Moderator please note.
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Clippo, most of his posts are like that.
Check his post history.
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:46 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Clippo,

We know you are total fraud and a liar and everyone should know it too.

You talk about climate change "has persuaded the consensus of its' danger to the world " - not on this forum, not in the scientific community and certainly not across the world.

They call this a consensus?

You see you can't take the moral highground on the basis of "nothing", despite your vain attempts.

You talk about "rational discussion issues", but you don't put forward any arguments, all you do is scream "conspiracy theory !"

Everyone can see your spin and lies for what they really are.....

By the way don't be a hippocrite and talk about how we shouldn't make personal attacks when you say I should be careful not to have a car accident.... (See Environment/green taxes thread)

As John Carter says you are a "freedom-hating, globalist, EU-friendly, commie IPCC-worshipper" and I couldn't have put it better myself.

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Oh, but there is!

The overwhelming science supports AGW so comprehensively and has persuaded the consensus of its' danger to the world so therefore what we should be debating here is steps to combat the damaging effects of Climate Change - not some silly conspiracy theories.

If we debate issues of what should be done in the future, rather than re-fighting battles that were decided years ago, there is is clearly no need for personal attacks.

To suggest that any 'side' should clear off clearly shows the desperation of the other of its' failure to come up with rational discussion issues.
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A series of articles by a newspaper hack.......
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You talk about climate change "has persuaded the consensus of its' danger to the world " - not on this forum, not in the scientific community and certainly not across the world.
Obviously you 'can't-handle-the-truth'. The whole point of the recent thread that I started - 'AGW message getting thro' was absolutely & utterly about independent surveys showing that indeed the world (or the USA public in this case), are persuaded by the dangers of Climate change. Furthermore, the fact that world governments accept the dangers of climate change (even dubya Bush very recently held a meeting in the US to discuss what might be done) and in a previous thread that I can't be bothered to trace back, I published a detailed survey into scientific consensus.

If it makes you happier to believe in conspiracy claptrap, well go ahead - but don't accuse me of distorting the scientific truth.

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Obviously you 'can't-handle-the-truth'. The whole point of the recent thread that I started - 'AGW message getting thro' was absolutely & utterly about independent surveys showing that indeed the world (or the USA public in this case), are persuaded by the dangers of Climate change. Furthermore, the fact that world governments accept the dangers of climate change (even dubya Bush very recently held a meeting in the US to discuss what might be done) and in a previous thread that I can't be bothered to trace back, I published a detailed survey into scientific consensus.

If it makes you happier to believe in conspiracy claptrap, well go ahead - but don't accuse me of distorting the scientific truth.
The world goverments are pushing climate change because of their political agenda to promote "green taxes" - there was a thread of that name on this forum.
Because YOU started a thread, that doesn;t mean sh*t because you've presented very little except environmentla lies. By never refuting any of my claims with evidence you have proved yourself to be a total fake.

When there is control of the mass media, you can make the public believe anything - it's called lies, intellectual manipulation and propaganda....

There you go again saying "conspiracy claptrap" - when people cannot present any evidence to refute something, they always resort to namecalling see ?

If I said black was black, you would either pull out some foney mainstream new world order article that cited it wasn't true or label me a conspiracy theorist.

I think I'm going to write an article on this forum called "How to refute any argument using conspiracy theory association"
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Definitive Proof: Majority Of Scientists Do Not Support Man Made Warming Theory

Let me guess what you'll say on this one.....
Another "newspaper hack" or "conspiracy theory" ?

Oh look what I've found it says in the article......

"The introduction and the summary of the IPCC's report was written entirely by politicians under the mandate of the UN, the input of actual scientists was minimal. In addition, all sections that were written by selected scientists were edited to comply with the report summary."

Man-Made Global Warming Is Politics Not Science

"The political document says right in the beginning that the “scientific” document is being edited to conform to the already released summary. That’s right. The U.N. politicians and bureaucrats wrote and released a summary of a report that isn’t written yet and is being edited to conform to their political summary."

So Clippo, Besoeker, are you calling the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change "conspiracy theorists" or will you now just say nothing as your defence ?
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:26 PM   #29 (permalink)
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So Clippo, Besoeker, are you calling the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change "conspiracy theorists" or will you now just say nothing as your defence ?
Why don't you just read the report and make up your own mind rather than spout the comments that others make about it?
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:59 PM   #30 (permalink)
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youcanhandlethetruth,
Your wild incomprehensible rants have no place in a sensible forum like this. Amongst tons of garbage you have written, I found this:-

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I think I'm going to write an article on this forum called "How to refute any argument using conspiracy theory association"
Well, let me tell you that far cleverer people than you have developed this argument the other way around - how to deal with a GW denier. There are many such websites offering this.
See for example :-
RC Wiki - RCwiki

and from one :-
Gristmill: The environmental news blog | Grist
Just look at section C where I found this :-
'Global warming is a hoax' | Gristmill: The environmental news blog | Grist

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Objection: Global warming is a hoax perpetrated by environmental extremists and liberals who want an excuse for more big government (and/or world government via the U.N.).
This is a common line, regardless of how ridiculous it is, so it should not go unanswered.
So, according to you, those national & international august organisations, covering thousand upon thousands of member scientists, are all misled by the world dominating elite.

What a dork!.

I’ve had enough of your drivel – I will not respond to you on this matter any further.
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