Envirofascists rejoice at the end of an era

mkpdavies · 07-04-2007, 09:22 PM

http://www.whatcar.com/news-article.aspx?NA=225155

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'The decision to drop the WRX was taken for political reasons,' Subaru says. 'We have been charged with selling more non-turbo models in the UK and Europe to lower our average carbon dioxide figures.

More casualties from the boot of envirofascism.

I wonder if I should keep mine now, seeing as it's being killed off.

Besoeker · 08-04-2007, 11:02 AM

I don't know of anyone who is rejoicing at the demise of this iconic car.

John Carter · 08-04-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

http://www.whatcar.com/news-article.aspx?NA=225155

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'The decision to drop the WRX was taken for political reasons,' Subaru says. 'We have been charged with selling more non-turbo models in the UK and Europe to lower our average carbon dioxide figures.

More casualties from the boot of envirofascism.

I wonder if I should keep mine now, seeing as it's being killed off.

Same with Jeep - effectively, you can no longer get a petrol engine model in the EU (except for a crappy CVT model and a limited edition).

eublues · 08-04-2007, 12:41 PM

Must be a wretched time for Land Rover dealers.

NoMoreEUSSR · 08-04-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by John Carter

Same with Jeep - effectively, you can no longer get a petrol engine model in the EU (except for a crappy CVT model and a limited edition).

CVTs are galaxies better than slushboxes.

Akria · 08-04-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

I don't know of anyone who is rejoicing at the demise of this iconic car.

The same here.

I may be what mkpdavies and others would call an 'envirofascist', which they seem to label virtually every proponent of the man-made global warming theory, but why would I rejoice about such a tragic loss?
Please stop insulting us.

Akria

NoMoreEUSSR · 08-04-2007, 03:41 PM

In my view an "envirofascist" is not simply someone who religiously believes in MMGW, but believes in the destruction of freedom based on pro-MMGW or other environmentalist philosophies.

Akria · 08-04-2007, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoreEUSSR

In my view an "envirofascist" is not simply someone who religiously believes in MMGW, but believes in the destruction of freedom based on pro-MMGW or other environmentalist philosophies.

Ah; so there we have an insult against the more mild proponents of the man-made global warming theory.
'... an "envirofascist" is not simply someone who religiously believes in MMGW'
Directed at those who are simly concerned about the idea that man-made global warming is happening,

'... but believes in the destruction of freedom based on pro-MMGW or other environmentalist philosophies.'
How nice. And tell me: how many people on this forum do that; going by your comments and those of some other members of this forum, half the people here.
Also: how do you define the 'destruction of freedom'?

Akria

allanon · 09-04-2007, 09:03 AM

Actually Akria, I think NoMoreEUSSR was implying that, in his view at least, you arn't an envirofascist.

Being an environmentalist is necessary but not suffcient; you also have to desire the destruction of freedom.

I think that's quite a fair description of the term.

NoMoreEUSSR · 09-04-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by allanon

Actually Akria, I think NoMoreEUSSR was implying that, in his view at least, you arn't an envirofascist.

Being an environmentalist is necessary but not suffcient; you also have to desire the destruction of freedom.

I think that's quite a fair description of the term.

You got it.

Even if there really is such a thing as MMGW - and there could be - how significant is it and can we really do anything about it? Reducing the West's "carbon footprint" by 1% or whatever doesn't mean much as the Chinese simultaneously triple theirs.

Now, there are many good reasons to oppose such evils as deforestation without invoking the MMGW argument, so you'll often find me sympathetic to the greenies on these issues.

Overdeforestation was a major factor in the self-destruction of many past societies. (ref J. Diamond)

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allanon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 650	Actually Akria, I think NoMoreEUSSR was implying that, in his view at least, you arn't an envirofascist. Being an environmentalist is necessary but not suffcient; you also have to desire the destruction of freedom. I think that's quite a fair description of the term.