Consider global warming's effect on Britain

Akria · 27-02-2007, 05:27 PM

Just ignore your thoughts on whether or not global warming is occurring; I merely want your ideas for the effects it would have on Britain if it were true. For the moment, put your personal beliefs out of the way.

For one thing, global warming would actually cause Britain to become significantly colder, particularly in winter. We've been told many times that the Gulf Stream from around the Yucatan peninsula is warming our island; what many of us don't know is how it works.
The Gulf Stream is in fact a giant convection current and convection currents, as we all know, require the temperature at either end of the current to be significantly different. As global warming occurred and the seas around us warmed slightly, the difference between the warm Gulf of Mexico and our own rather chilly seas would lessen; a convection current would be impossible, and thus the Gulf Stream would fail. Its warming of our shores is of a much greater magitude than the amount global warming could provide; we'd actually end up colder rather than warmer.
Consider the Russian and Canadian winters at their worst. That would be much like Britain if the Gulf Stream failed.

I've put in my twopenny-worth; what about yours? If global warming were true then what effect would it have on Britain?

Akria

John Carter · 27-02-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Akria

Consider the Russian and Canadian winters at their worst. That would be much like Britain if the Gulf Stream failed.

Sweet. I like snow.

Westcountryman · 27-02-2007, 09:25 PM

So what? Given how far North Britain is, we'd have to get used to it as really we'd be closer to the 'natural' climate our island should have.

Sure, I'd miss the palm trees we have in the garden, but it's not like the difference will affect train services, is it.

mkpdavies · 27-02-2007, 09:40 PM

Grapes and Melons in my back garden!

Excellent.

John Carter · 27-02-2007, 10:24 PM

Right now I have an image in my head of some jumped up weasly little meteorologist talking to a large rasta in Jamaica.

M: "There's a hurricane coming! Run!"

R: "Don't worry about it mon, it's just a bit of wind. Have some smoke mon".

SGK · 28-02-2007, 08:12 AM

How do the scientists work out that it will be colder in Britain but warmer in Greenland? Beside the point, I suppose.
If Scotland freezes over, where will they go? After obtaining independence from the UK, they won't have any automatic right to move south of the border. They will start winning a few medals in the winter olympics non-event, but their tourist industry will crash and all their cultural nick-nacks will start to look obsolete and backward.
Rising sea levels will mean a massive investment in coastal construction and a network of dykes. Britain will become more like Holland but without the silly language.
If Norfolk keeps sinking, we may have to give up on it one day anyway - who would miss Norwich?
Would the Thames flood barrier become the UK's no.1 terrorist target? Would anyone be upset if London was 20 feet underwater? Would Ken Livingstone finally reduce the congestion charge?
A bleak, cold climate with reduced space for new housing would suddenly make Britain undesirable for immigrants. As the costs rise and the economy struggles, will African countries launch TV appeals to help the poor, destitute Brits? Will we become donation-dependent junkies?
If there is more sea between the UK and the continent, will it be possible to accept that the UK is not - and never has been - in Europe?

Britannist · 28-02-2007, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SGK

If Norfolk keeps sinking, we may have to give up on it one day anyway - who would miss Norwich?

I would miss Norwich - a fine Cathedral city with its own airport.

And I would miss the great county of Norfolk too.

East Anglia is hard to beat.

Westcountryman · 28-02-2007, 11:10 AM

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East Anglia is hard to beat.

That's what the South West is for. :wink:

g hall · 28-02-2007, 03:53 PM

If DEFRA actually invested in sea defences then there would not really be a problem for several centuries. The Dutch can manage it why can't we

27-02-2007, 05:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
Akria Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Grimsby, NELincs Posts: 2,454 Party: None	Consider global warming's effect on Britain Just ignore your thoughts on whether or not global warming is occurring; I merely want your ideas for the effects it would have on Britain if it were true. For the moment, put your personal beliefs out of the way. For one thing, global warming would actually cause Britain to become significantly colder, particularly in winter. We've been told many times that the Gulf Stream from around the Yucatan peninsula is warming our island; what many of us don't know is how it works. The Gulf Stream is in fact a giant convection current and convection currents, as we all know, require the temperature at either end of the current to be significantly different. As global warming occurred and the seas around us warmed slightly, the difference between the warm Gulf of Mexico and our own rather chilly seas would lessen; a convection current would be impossible, and thus the Gulf Stream would fail. Its warming of our shores is of a much greater magitude than the amount global warming could provide; we'd actually end up colder rather than warmer. Consider the Russian and Canadian winters at their worst. That would be much like Britain if the Gulf Stream failed. I've put in my twopenny-worth; what about yours? If global warming were true then what effect would it have on Britain? Akria __________________ I am getting very tired of people not reading my posts properly. Please do not reply to me unless you are sure you have not missed out the key points I am making and key words I am using. http://real-democracy.co.uk \| Admin and proud The commonality of mankind: If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die?

27-02-2007, 09:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
Westcountryman Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Westcountry. Posts: 5,922 Party: None	So what? Given how far North Britain is, we'd have to get used to it as really we'd be closer to the 'natural' climate our island should have. Sure, I'd miss the palm trees we have in the garden, but it's not like the difference will affect train services, is it. __________________ Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietam - "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty."

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	Grapes and Melons in my back garden! Excellent. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

28-02-2007, 03:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
g hall Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: erehwon Posts: 5,217	If DEFRA actually invested in sea defences then there would not really be a problem for several centuries. The Dutch can manage it why can't we __________________ "That government is best which governs least." "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries". "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful."

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27-02-2007, 10:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
John Carter Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Sabbatical Posts: 5,110	Right now I have an image in my head of some jumped up weasly little meteorologist talking to a large rasta in Jamaica. M: "There's a hurricane coming! Run!" R: "Don't worry about it mon, it's just a bit of wind. Have some smoke mon".

28-02-2007, 08:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
SGK Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,237	How do the scientists work out that it will be colder in Britain but warmer in Greenland? Beside the point, I suppose. If Scotland freezes over, where will they go? After obtaining independence from the UK, they won't have any automatic right to move south of the border. They will start winning a few medals in the winter olympics non-event, but their tourist industry will crash and all their cultural nick-nacks will start to look obsolete and backward. Rising sea levels will mean a massive investment in coastal construction and a network of dykes. Britain will become more like Holland but without the silly language. If Norfolk keeps sinking, we may have to give up on it one day anyway - who would miss Norwich? Would the Thames flood barrier become the UK's no.1 terrorist target? Would anyone be upset if London was 20 feet underwater? Would Ken Livingstone finally reduce the congestion charge? A bleak, cold climate with reduced space for new housing would suddenly make Britain undesirable for immigrants. As the costs rise and the economy struggles, will African countries launch TV appeals to help the poor, destitute Brits? Will we become donation-dependent junkies? If there is more sea between the UK and the continent, will it be possible to accept that the UK is not - and never has been - in Europe?