mkpdavies

Better get on cheapflights.com or something then, they already are in alliance with the Commies and One World order merchants.

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I doubt if many people are attracted to the Greens policies in general - but it does give an indication of how much the GW is a 'hot potato' in political terms.

Any party which does not reflect the public's mood is confining themselves to obscurity.

Westcountryman

The public can be, and have been wrong. Democracies such as the UK and the US employ systems of representative democracy for this very reason. The US go one step further with the electoral college.

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Millennium3

The public have also been right - UKIP had better cross its fingers and hope because the way back is difficult - if they are right!

mkpdavies

The public have had sod all say in the matter. Just 24 hour, one sided, biased **** from the establishment.

UKIP should put a REAL enviromental policy together, that doesn't play on hysteria, only fact. Then it can say it's going in the same direction, just not diverting over a cliff at some point.

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Yes, however NF showed political naivity in coming out so strongly against man caused GW when the jury is still out.

Unless, of course, it was a dilberate strategy to ensure that UKIP could not be in contention as a fully fledged political party, but would have to remain as a Tory pressure group which could take a few % of Tory voters - enough to prevent them regaining office!

mkpdavies

He didn't though did he. He came out against the hysteria based approach, with little room for debate and major assumptions.

He was considerably more neutral on the issue than me.

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Witchcraft is a pretty strong condemnation of serious scientists. Do you have his exact comment?

Even so he has been branded as someone who does not believe GW is caused by man and this is likely to be the mainstream view well beyond the next GE. I will stick with naive because there was no need for him to say anything.

mkpdavies

Wrong assumption. He wasn't questioning the scientists themselves, just the process of ignoring one set of scientists who happen to have an opposing view.

By who? Richard Corbett? The Grauniad? Jesus he has been branded with far worse.
Which is rubbish, if you believe in political parties having a set of values, sticking to them and fighting their corner.

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If he is choosing to have a set of values which ignores the fact that the mainstream scientific view is that GW is caused by man, it is not far short of the flat earthers outlook.

He is entitled to his view, however, if he has any ambition to be a serious politician he has to make comments which are appropriate. I think the preponderance of the evidence is that he likes things just as they are - him, the leader of a Tory pressure group. His witchcraft statement was deliberately designed to ensure things stay that way!