GW/CC is not man made.

paullotion · 16-01-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

Brent Miller was factually incorrect on a number of points. No big deal.
He says that global warming is happening and says that he does not know why. Yet, despite not knowing why, he says it is not man made. Not terribly logical. And here are a number of other inconsistencies. No big deal.

But when he uses documented legends, psychics, and "remote viewing" as the basis of his assertions it just stretches credulity a bit too much.

From you point of view,science has not proven anything in regards GW/CC you could easily be wrong,what is true is that the sun plays an important part within our planet,which is one of the points he made regarding GW/CC.

So the hockey stick is trustworthy even though over 17,000 scientist say its flawed.

Besoeker · 16-01-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by paullotion

From you point of view,science has not proven anything in regards GW/CC you could easily be wrong

For sure I have been wrong about many things.
But, specificaly, what did you think I might have been wrong about?

paullotion · 16-01-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

For sure I have been wrong about many things.
But, specificaly, what did you think I might have been wrong about?

He did not use psychics or RV,listen to the interview again.

What other things did he state that were incorrect?

g hall · 16-01-2007, 08:01 PM

The website looks cool and full of Voodoo and totally incomprehensible to a rational thinker

paullotion · 16-01-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by g hall

The website looks cool and full of Voodoo and totally incomprehensible to a rational thinker

Can you show us the voodoo.

Besoeker · 16-01-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by paullotion

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

For sure I have been wrong about many things.
But, specificaly, what did you think I might have been wrong about?

He did not use psychics or RV,listen to the interview again.

What other things did he state that were incorrect?

Ice cores.
The frequency of hurricanes.
Latitude and longitude.
The effect of volcanoes...

Just buy the DVD he is promoting.
Only $25

paullotion · 16-01-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

Ice cores.
The frequency of hurricanes.
Latitude and longitude.
The effect of volcanoes...

In what way?

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

Just buy the DVD he is promoting.
Only $25

Won`t bother might get it online free.

g hall · 16-01-2007, 09:10 PM

paullotion

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Can you show us the voodoo.

I think Besoeker beat me to it

paullotion · 16-01-2007, 10:34 PM

So Ice Cores,The Frequency of Hurricanes,Latitude and Longitude and the Effect of Volcanoes are all voodoo,news to me.

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Originally Posted by From Brett Miller

In the last 1800’s earthquake information has been collected worldwide with a high degree of accuracy. We could not measure very small earthquakes until the 1960’s so I’ll start by addressing only the frequency and intensity of “large” earthquakes – all of which could easily be measured and recorded for over a hundred years:

- Between 1880 and 1959 there have been an average of 2 to 4 large earthquakes on Earth per decade.
- In the 1960’s there have been 13 major earthquakes
- In the 1970’s there have been 51 major earthquakes
- In the 1980’s there have been 86 major earthquakes
- In the 1990’s there have been 150 major earthquakes
- Between 2000 and the present, there have already been over 185 major earthquakes

Now lets address small earthquakes: Since the 1980’s we have been able to accurately detect and record every single earthquake on Earth down to a level 2.0 and higher on the Richter scale. So let’s look at the recent “small” earthquakes.

- 10 years ago we had an average of 30 earthquakes per month that had a magnitude of 4.0 or higher
- In September, 2006 we had 306 earthquakes that had a magnitude of 4.0 or higher
- In October, 2006 we had 356 earthquakes that had a magnitude of 4.0 or higher
- In November, 2006 we had around 445 earthquakes that had a magnitude of 4.0 or higher

Besoeker · 17-01-2007, 06:44 PM

A few points Paullotion

I didn’t have time earlier to reply in any detail to your points, so a bit more detail but in no particular order:

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From you point of view,science has not proven anything in regards GW/CC you could easily be wrong

You are making assumptions about what my point of view is. I’d rather you didn’t do that.

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So the hockey stick is trustworthy even though over 17,000 scientist say its flawed.

I made no comment about the hockey stick so why include it in a response to me?

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He did not use psychics or RV,listen to the interview again.

Listen from after the commercial break at about 31 minutes in.

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So Ice Cores,The Frequency of Hurricanes,Latitude and Longitude and the Effect of Volcanoes are all voodoo,news to me.

That would be news to me too. The points he made about them were factually incorrect, or at least misleading. No big deal.

Earthquakes.
You posted data from Brett Miller. You didn’t make any comment to connect that to GW. As such, it just seismic data. Selective seismic data at that.
If you take the data for this century and plot all earthquakes of 6 and above on the Richter scale this is what you get.

I have included a trend line which gives a decrease of about 1.7 per year.

Those of 7.0 and above also show a decline. The total number of all recorded earthquakes has declined year on year for the past four years. The number seismographic stations has increased more than twenty fold over the last 7 decades. Given that, one might reasonably expect many more seismic events to be recorded. Yet, as I have shown above, one could make a convincing case that fewer are.

Your mate has had to be selective with the data to make his point. Whatever its relevance.

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