mkpdavies

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6253119.stm

Surely they have this wrong. Clippo has proven the suns energy has little to do with the temperature of planets and that co2 is the main cause.

They need a severe cut in SUVs. Ban them all immedietely, otherwise these planets could melt!

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It's all those brussels at christmas

Clippo

mpkdavies wrote:-
I've never claimed to have done any peer-reviewed research on any factor affecting the temperature of any planet !!! :? :?

If I have, as is my usual request to you and which you have never been able to do with the rest of your erroneous claims, please direct me to the Exxon untainted bibliographic reference.

You're all being very silly in this latest bout of threads !

Feldoon

And Davies never claimed you did.

Strawman, stop being a tit.

Furthermore; this should emphasise a point.

mkpdavies

I was thinking of this, where you tried to rule out my bit on the Sun being the main effector on global climate.

http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=16464

If you were actually admitting the Sun is the main cause and that man made co2 is an insignificance in relation, then I am sorry, I have misunderstood all of your rants.

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Stop insulting tits! :P

John Carter

Checkmate!

Clippo

Proof, in my book, is independent scientific research which has been peer-reviewed – which if you had actually read many, many of our exchanges on GW threads is a claim I have been consistent with. But of course, mpkdavies & John carter in particular don't like my, and others, pedantism for such niceties because it exposes their inadequacies.

Or perhaps my first reply was a little difficult for you. Perhaps I should have said :-

Did I, - Where ?

You know full well that I have stated repeatedly that CO2 is the GW main cause, (rapid release by man’s activities in geological terms), but that other causes exist as well. Changing Solar activity is one of these as also the destruction of negative feedback mechanisms like rain forest removal is yet another. The link to Wikipedia was a referral to a summary of pro & anti solar induced peer reviewed research for you to balance with the geological solar activity chart that got you into so much trouble with Besoeker.

The conclusions in that report, as reported by one of the solar scientists specialising in that research and who originally had claimed solar radiance was the major factor, was that actually he thought that solar radiance was now only responsible for 30% of GW.

So, respecting that scientist’s superior knowledge on the topic, I accepted his assessment.

Thus, not having absolutely a jot of experimental input to any solar research, or any refereeing contracts with the learned journals that solar research was published in, or any CO2 research for that matter, I still can’t see how :-

QED

John Carter, - I bet you aren’t a grand master !!!! and I hope you’ve got a big pocket to pay for all the extra taxes that lovely EU commissioner is going to slap on 4 x 4 ‘s.

Besoeker

The NASA graph posted by MKP Davies?

Feldoon

See, one day you'll witness this thing called "Independent thinking".

When this happens, you'll realise that proof isn't necessarily what you think it is and that what you think it is isn't necessarily proof.

A further hint; life's not black and white.


Except it isn't.

Because that would necessitate that natural fluctuations in climate don't happen. Which is a lie.

Which means your statement is wrong.

Is easily editable and subject to the bias of the editors, reviewers and website owners.

Which is an appeal to authority.

Excuse you whilst you choke on a logic biscuit.

Or we could just hope we get someone with knowledge of burden of proof and a neutral standpoint as our prime minister.

Or someone who isn't a fascist twatpot.

Like Farage.