Britannist

Former Conservative MP Michael Brown, columnist on the Independent newspaper, said on Sky Television News at 11.37 pm on 5.1.2007 "Ryanair boss Mike O' Leary got good free publicity for his airline this morning by attacking Ian Pearson MP (the Blair Lie-bour regime Environment minister who claimed Ryanair pumped too many carbon emissions into the air) - he rounded on him and put him in his place convincingly."

Dame Ann Leslie (the Daily Mail columnist who was knighted in the New Year's Honours), commented on Sky Television News on 5.1.2007 at 11.38 pm "Mike O' Leary is always good copy. Especially when he tells a minister to get back into his box. Blair uses up more carbon emissions on flights to free holidays with members of the Bee Gees pop group than Ryanair use as the greenest airline."

Endy Brady, a Sky Television News journalist, said on Sky News at 0003 hours on 6.1.2007 "Ryanair uses more modern, fuel-efficient aircraft than British Airways (BA). Ryanair flies fuller aircraft than BA (who fly aircraft which sometimes include many empty seats). Ryanair emits one fifth of the amount of carbon emissions that BA does per passenter. BA emits nearly half a ton on average per passenger."

Clippo

Britannist wrote:-
Don't be so bl**dy daft. Ryanair would collapse if he did pull out of the UK & O'Leary would have been seen to be beaten by his opponents (not a sort of man to contemplate that) - & it would have absolutely no impact on the 'lie-bour' regime.

Could you give an unbiased reference to the cost analysis you publiushed earlier? I'm sure Ryanair is probably more efficient than BA, or any other major long haul airline for that matter but I suspect someone is being economical with the truth - not incorporating every factor.

mkpdavies

It was on the news last night, SKY.

BA has older planes, thus are less efficient. BA sucks EU **** though, so Ryanair who don't, get both barrels.

You'll learn you have been duped by the axis one day.

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From the link you posted:

Britannist

No I will not give you an "unbiased reference to the cost analysis" in view of the tone at the opening of your rather unpleasant posting (i.e. your words "Don't be so bl**dy daft"). You do not seriously expect me to answer any enquiry written in this way.

No one is forcing you to agree with me, but I refuse to spend MY time on getting together information/links etc. to answer questions from such a rude person as you. Whoever you are.

Britannist

Exactly. It was all covered by Sky journalist Endy Brady in his fair, reasonable and well-researched report on Sky Television news last night.

As I mentioned in a posting to this thread made in the early hours of this morning.

Ryanair is far more efficient than pro-EU British Airways or the airline ran by the europhile Branson. Neither of whom were targeted by this obscure minister Pearson who has, according to Mike Mendoza on TalkSport radio this morning "made a total fool of himself and doesn't know what he is talking about."

This attack on Ryanair is an attack by the europhile metro-'elite' on Ryanair because its boss has criticised the EU before - and it is an attack by the metro-'elite' using 'green' issues on the milliions who use cheap air travel. The 'elite' hate the fact that what was once their exclusive reserve - international air travel - is now open to hundreds of millions around the globe thanks to low cost airlines such as Ryanair and others.

eublues

Could be one hell of a scrap between O'Leary and the EU.

Unfortunately they hold the all the cards - unless I'm missing something (?).

Britannist

Yes, EU Blues, they (the bullying power-hungry EU) hold the cards. But Mr. O' Leary (Ryanair boss) can create some bad publicity for them if he has to - just as the attack by the fool Pearson (Environment minister) on Ryanair backfired yesterday because of Mr. O' Leary's professional and reasonable response in the UK media. 8)

Ryanair must have some influence with both the British and Irish Governments. It pays tax to both.

Who's worth more to the Blair/Brown Labour (Lie-bour) government - the obscure Pearson or Ryanair? It's Ryanair, of course. :P

If Lie-bour are seen to be causing problems to an airline such as Ryanair -which provides cheap tickets for millions of British voters to fly to see relatives and friends in many countries and to visit places they never imagined they'd see - then they (Lie-bour) could damage themselves.

Hartlepool

QUISLINGS,LIKE YOURSELF ARE ABOUT TO LEARN THE FOLLY OF PUSHING THE ENVELOPE TOO FAR.COMMUNIST EUROPEAN UNION AND CONSERVATIVE PARTY TROLLS ARE ON THE DECLINE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE CEU AND CONS ARE ALMOST FINISHED.

Clippo

Britannist wrote:-

By being out-argued in related threads, you’re letting your emotions control your logical thinking.

Okay, I’ll re-word what I wrote earlier :-

I say old chap, I do think you may have the wrong end of the stick with your statement about Ryanair maybe leaving Stanstead or the UK. This is because, in my view, his company generates most of its’ business with flights in & out of the UK to Europe, even if Head office is in Dublin, & he’s probably one of the most committed business leaders to his own company that is around at the moment. He is renowned for his Celtic rages and he is not so much saying GW isn’t caused by man-made CO2 as simply gut-reacting to a threat to his business.

Although I disagree with your view, I can understand that it might have been wishful thinking on your part that O’Leary would ‘take-on’ & defeat the (mythical) axis of voodoo as mpkdavies puts it. However, I can’t see it happening myself.

I have flown with Ryanair several times, & Easyjet & BA and so on. I like Ryanair & Easyjet because they are cheap & great for short hops, for me, from Liverpool / Manchester to various parts of Europe but I know in my heart of hearts that modern Jet air travel is a major cause of GW because it puts the CO2 in the very worst place.

Now, I asked you for more details on the claim that :-

purely because this is a truly remarkable statistic by anyone’s standard. All I wanted you to do was to see if the Sky presenter, since I don’t have ‘Sky’, had qualified that claim in any way.

Time after time, you and mpkdavies repeat statements, written or verbal, by others without using any analytical commonsense

I do fear that you, like mpkdavies are the ones being duped, (by yourselves), by being selective in your intellectual input. .