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Old 13-12-2006, 11:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Vote for the polar bear in extinct too. They are going to need a new home in a few decades, until the next ice age comes anyway.
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Old 13-12-2006, 07:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
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No, we must blame us all the time. Then we can tax us and control us, its the the way of the religous order of hysteria.

Amen.
Did you look at the other graphs I posted ?
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Old 14-12-2006, 03:05 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Yep.
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Yep.
Did you notice anything about current levels of CO2?
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Old 14-12-2006, 12:47 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Still near the lows of history.
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Still near the lows of history.


See that little red arrow on the top left?
With the legend "Present CO2 level?
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You've missed a few billions years off that graph dude.



Picking a period when co2 has hit rock bottom, then getting all exited as it barely inches upwards when compared to historical averages, hardly sends me into a frenzy.
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From:-
http://environment.guardian.co.uk/cl...970360,00.html

I found this news piece accidentally today. Although it mainly about the climatic dangers of nuclear war, the extracts below are relevant to what I posted earlier in this thread.

According to the research, tens of millions of people would die, global temperatures would crash and most of the world would be unable to grow crops for more than five years after a conflict.
There is a precedent for this sort of climactic change: major volcanic eruptions in the past have thrown global ecosystems into temporary turmoil.
The eruption of Mount Tambora in 1815 was the biggest such event on record. The resulting cloud of ash spread around the world and caused crops to fail the following year in North America and Europe, resulting in the worst famine of the century.
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Picking a period when co2 has hit rock bottom, then getting all exited as it barely inches upwards when compared to historical averages, hardly sends me into a frenzy.
As I expected, you completely missed the point.
I didn't pick that time period - you did. Look at the other thread.
You presented a graph of CO2 over that exact same period (from the same source)when you were claiming that man-made climate change is a sham.
I'm just pointing out that the same information from the same source can be used to support either point of view.
I'm not, as you seem to infer, using it to prove or disprove anything about human causal relationship with climate change.
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As I expected, you completely missed the point.
I didn't pick that time period - you did. Look at the other thread.
You presented a graph of CO2 over that exact same period (from the same source)when you were claiming that man-made climate change is a sham.
I'm just pointing out that the same information from the same source can be used to support either point of view.
I'm not, as you seem to infer, using it to prove or disprove anything about human causal relationship with climate change.
Where did I say I was picking at you? You pointed bit of the graph that I find no big deal and I showed you why I think it is no big deal. End of.
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